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Suggestion: Lock the applet forum

Steve Fahlbusch
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Greetings All,

It seems that applets are no longer relevant.

That said, there are still questions popping up here, but i think applets forum could be closed and any further questions could be handled in the General forum.

-steve
Ernest Friedman-Hill
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An interesting suggestion, indeed. A quick look over does show a number of posts that would be just as happy elsewhere, but there are some which, however misguided, are definitely applet-specific.

Maybe a better idea would be a warning at the top of the applet forum that hardly anybody uses applets anymore, and that perhaps you should consider another approach.


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Steve Fahlbusch
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Ernest,

That is what i am talking about, misguided. Applets are dead - bad - wrong - and a bad technology.

that is why i suggested just closing the forum - while there are very applet specific questions, this should no longer be supported, even if just misdirected by having an active forum directed to it.

-steve
Richard Tookey
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Steve Fahlbusch wrote:
That is what i am talking about, misguided. Applets are dead - bad - wrong - and a bad technology.


I would be interested to know what makes Applets 'misguided', 'dead' and 'bad technology'!
William Brogden
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As a long time Java programmer who has made good use of applets over the years, I would like to know the source of this vitriolic attack on the concept.

We get way too many fads in programming by people who have discovered the latest immutable truth.

Applets pioneered the whole idea of active web pages and my applet based test engine had literally hundreds of thousands of users.

Bill
Jayesh A Lalwani
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Applets are like the grandpa who sits in the corner and shouts at the kids. People who were close to him have fond memories of him. People who weren't close to him wonder why we still put up with him. Everyone prefers that the grandpa shut up, and the kids stop messing with him. However, killing him just..feels..so..wrong

IMO, as long as Java keeps applets alive, we will have to keep saying "Now, kids.. stay away from old grandpa, and play with this shiny new toy!" Killing the applets forum.. just..feels...wrong!!

Paul Clapham
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I don't think applets are dead, they are just resting. Stunned. Pining for the fjords. But anyway, there are two classes of questions which show up in the Applets forum. There's the basic Java and basic Swing questions which are asked there because they just happen to be in an applet, and there's the configuration problems. The former could be shuffled off to more suitable forums, but the latter really need to stay there.

It might help to put something at the top of the forum page which says something like "Are you new to Java? Are you writing an applet? Then stop doing that."
Ulf Dittmer
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I agree with Paul. Applets are a feature of Java, they pose a bunch of configurations problems that don't arise elsewhere in the Java world, and there are plenty of questions about them here - why wouldn't we have a forum especially for them?

Wishing that they didn't exist, or that people would use different technologies instead, really doesn't factor into that.


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Bear Bibeault
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Ulf Dittmer wrote:Wishing that they didn't exist, or that people would use different technologies instead, really doesn't factor into that.


Well said.

A correlary is the with clause in JavaScript -- no one thinks it should be used anymore (in fact, it's forbidden in strict mode), but it exists in code out in the wild and people need to know how it works. Same with JSP scriptlets -- obsolete technology that no one should be using anymore, but pretty endemic.


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