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Career Advice between Automation(Java) and Developer(Java)

Abhilash Sharma
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I am OCPJP 6 and OCEJWCD EE6 Certified. After doing my certifications I was searching for job in Java Developer profile for around 2 months but didn't have any luck(as I know it is hard to get a job for a fresher in this pprofile). I have been offered a Java Automation Engineer post. They are using Selenium tool. Package is good or I can say it is same as Java Developer for that company. Just want to know what will be the future of Java Automation.Is this the right track for me. I heard that in Automation they only going to use core java. Is Automation engineers considers as Testers(Software Testing). I love all the JSP/SERVLETS STUFF.But I didn't have any problem in this area as well but just want know how things will go in future.


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No one can predict the future, so just take the job that interests you the most. You are not going to make a career out of a single technology or language. So it's not like you're choosing for life.


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Abhilash Sharma
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Thanks Bear for your Suggestions.I was just just confused about the career opportunities as a automation Engg.(Java) in near future say after 2 years.Do companies are going to use automation(Java)(I don't know how many companies in India are using it).Anyone who have the experience in automation field please clear my doubts.It will be a big help for me.
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K. Tsang
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Automation can mean many things. Automation software I can think of from top of my head are batch processing and testing software. I doubt this area will limit to just core Java, depending of the purpose.

When I started out my role was programmer in the "data center automation" team at some bank using AS/400. At the end, I learned the primary goal of automation software/apps are not making the software automatic (no-human operation) but more like simplify human (operators in my case) daily task aiming to increase people's efficiency.


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Tony Jaa
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Abhilash Sharma wrote:I am OCPJP 6 and OCEJWCD EE6 Certified. After doing my certifications I was searching for job in Java Developer profile for around 2 months but didn't have any luck(as I know it is hard to get a job for a fresher in this pprofile). I have been offered a Java Automation Engineer post. They are using Selenium tool. Package is good or I can say it is same as Java Developer for that company. Just want to know what will be the future of Java Automation.Is this the right track for me. I heard that in Automation they only going to use core java. Is Automation engineers considers as Testers(Software Testing). I love all the JSP/SERVLETS STUFF.But I didn't have any problem in this area as well but just want know how things will go in future.


Hey ! I am curious to know if your employer actually feels that your certifications are valuable. I have a OCJP 6 cert too, but i dont think that it is valued in the industry. Everyone asked me technical questions and Q's related to my projects.
No one even cared if I had these certifications. What about you?

Abhilash Sharma
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Tony Jaa wrote:
Hey ! I am curious to know if your employer actually feels that your certifications are valuable. I have a OCJP 6 cert too, but i dont think that it is valued in the industry. Everyone asked me technical questions and Q's related to my projects.
No one even cared if I had these certifications. What about you?



Certifications won't promise you a job.It only shows that you are serious about the technology(java/j2ee) in which you are willing to work and you have shown some promise and commitment to learn it.But again it depends upon employer to employer.You will gonna be grilled with technical questions which is the whole point anyway of doing certs so that you can be strong in basics.
Karina Guenther
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I've spent most of my career doing development and I just got a position doing automation testing. I think only the larger companies will have people dedicated to doing automation testing, thus there should be more development positions available. However, development positions may require more experience and a wider variety of skills/knowledge than just java. My recommendation? Keep flexible, don't get stuck doing one over the other cause sure as the sun rises, the market will change and you'll get stuck. Even if you have a perm job, keep looking at the job postings and what's the most desired skills and make sure that you at least know what they are talking about. It took me 7 years to transfer from COBOL to Java, and then I also had to work on getting skills in all the alphabet soup that goes along with that. I've had to keep adding things as they came along such as Spring, Hibernate and now GWT, Selenium etc. I've thought about getting certifications, but for the most part my Bachelors degree has done the job. It's making sure you can answer the tech questions in the interview that's the most important thing.
Karina Guenther
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Another point... your hireability is dependent upon the market. When there's a lot of jobs then it's easier for you to find a company willing to overlook lack of experience in the skills that they are looking for. When there's few jobs...you'd better have the years, cause you're competing against those that do, and if you want to work, you have to adjust your expectations accordingly. 4 years ago I accepted a contract position at IBM for $10 per hr less than what I was making 2 years before, because I'd not found a place for over a year, and I had lost out on a position cause the other person was working and I wasn't. Not fair I know, but that's the way it is. After a year there the market had heated up so and with another year added to my resume, I got another contract at $20 per hr more.
Jayesh A Lalwani
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I can see the need for test automation increasing in the near future. Agile depends on being able to support Continious Release, which depends on being able to automate your testing. I think if you enjoy it, you should go for it.
 
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