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Which Course to take?

Will Myers
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I know this has been done to death, but which course is most relevant for this cert? I have already passed OCJP, OCBCD, OCWCD, and OCMJEA as well as a Spring Cert and an Oracle 10g SQL cert and have over 10 years of experience of development mainly in the EE space. I haven't done much GUI work other than some JSPs/Servlets in Java and am probably a bit lacking in concurrency so would be good to fill one or both of these holes...

was thinking one of:

Course 1 or Course 2

any advice?
Roel De Nijs
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This course could also be an option.


SCJA, SCJP (1.4 | 5.0 | 6.0), SCJD
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Cathal Mullan
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If you have your Architect certification, why bother? Save the money instead
Guillaume Drouet
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I have passed the exam and I am going to take the Java SE 7 Programming course.
Will Myers
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If you have your Architect certification, why bother? Save the money instead


because they are different exams and test different things
Cathal Mullan
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Why don't you just look at the spec for the parts you need to practice & do some practice?

The exams & course are very expensive.

Don't think the developer cert will improve your CV much as you already have your architect cert
Anayonkar Shivalkar
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Cathal Mullan wrote:Why don't you just look at the spec for the parts you need to practice & do some practice?

The exams & course are very expensive.

Don't think the developer cert will improve your CV much as you already have your architect cert

Cathal, I'm not sure about specific reasons why Will is preparing for the certification, but as he has already mentioned, enterprise architect exam and developer exam test different things.

Passing a certification is not only for improving CV etc. It also means to have some strict requirements, strict deadlines and so on (which is difficult to maintain if one is simply doing practice on his own).

Will, I'll suggest to think over course mentioned by Roel. Though its Java 6 course, its contents are quite nice.

All the Best!


Regards,
Anayonkar Shivalkar (SCJP, SCWCD, OCMJD, OCEEJBD)
Daniel Black
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My situation is similar to that of Will Myers. Although I dont have the Java Enterprise Architect certification, I have several years of experience as a Java developer. Personally, I feel that none of the approved courses for the Java Developer certification would benefit my personal development, since they are fairly low level (imho).

I have contacted Oracle Customer Service and asked whether one of the approved courses for Java Enterprise Architect could also count towards the course requirement for Java Developer. Unfortunately, this was her reply (although I am not sure whether this is the official Oracle position in this matter):

I am afraid we cannot make an exception with the courses, you will need to undergo one of the recommended trainings for your Certification Path.


This is unfortunate, because I think the Java Developer exam would be really interesting to take, but I can't justify the expense for the required course, because I really wouldn't learn anything from it.

Has anyone had any succes in taking a different course than the ones listed? If not, which was the most interesting for a developer with several years of experience?

I would really appreciate hearing from others who have been in a similar position.
Cathal Mullan
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Daniel Black wrote:I would really appreciate hearing from others who have been in a similar position.


I got my developer cert before the introduction of the mandatory course.

I was going to take all the rest of the developer certs then do my Architect cert but not now.

Its way too expensive to get the Architect cert. If I can't achieve the top cert there's no point in continuing.

The introduction of the mandatory courses have ruined the certification program in my opinion.
Roel De Nijs
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If you want to use 1 course for both the Developer and the Architect certification, you'll have to pick a course that's on both lists. No exceptions will be allowed by Oracle.

But if you don't value the certification kit a lot, you can take the certification without following the mandatory course. Based on one of the user stories, you'll get your grade, but no certification kit until you follow the mandatory course requirement (and fill out the Submit Course Form).
Guillaume Drouet
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I have submitted the assignment and i have taken the essay exam without any mandatory course and without the ocpjp. When Oracle had my result, they sent me an email indicating that they can t send the result before I got the ocpjp certification. When I got my ocpjp exam, I saw my score and in fact I have passed the exam without the mandatory course. However I don t have the certification kit and I need to take the mandatory course if I want it !
Cathal Mullan
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Guillaume Drouet wrote:I need to take the mandatory course if I want it !


I think it's unfair to be able to pass an exam but not be certified because it's too expensive to attend a course
Guillaume Drouet
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I agree and this is why I am going to take the course. I have also worked 5 months on the assignment and I don t want, at the end of this work (which is good according to my score), oracle doesn't t consider me as an ocmjd.
Daniel Black
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Guillaume Drouet wrote:I agree and this is why I am going to take the course. I have also worked 5 months on the assignment and I don t want, at the end of this work (which is good according to my score), oracle doesn't t consider me as an ocmjd.


Out of curiosity, which course will you take?
Guillaume Drouet
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Hi

Guillaume Drouet wrote:I have passed the exam and I am going to take the Java SE 7 Programming course.


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