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FiveYearItch and stepping up to a better job

Josh Fox
FiveYearItch Rep
Greenhorn

Joined: Apr 16, 2013
Posts: 15
    
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Hey, CodeRanchers, thanks for the warm welcome.

If you're comfortably-employed and would like something better -- new challenges, work-life balance, kegerator, whatever ...

If you're tired of CRUD and dreaming of switching to Rails, Node.js or whatever new technology that turns you ...

If you want to learn how far employers will go to hire you ...

... we're here to make that happen.

Check out FiveYearItch and the FiveYearItch blog for more ideas.

Looking forward to a great discussion!


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Astha Sharma
Ranch Hand

Joined: Oct 15, 2011
Posts: 245

Hi Josh,
How are you? First of all I welcome you to ranch

I want to ask some questions regarding switching job. Currently I am working as Android developer in an small company. I have 10 months experience working as Android developer. Now I want some better opportunity so looking for a job change after completing 1 year. Here are my questions -

-- I have good command on core java and have experience of developing Java web services for my Android projects. If I want to switch as Java developer, is it must to have knowledge of java frameworks to get good opportunity as 1 year experienced Java developer?

-- I have worked in another company for first 6 months of my job. Now I am planning to leave my current company after working here for 6 months. Will switching companies in such less period effect opportunities for me for getting job even if I have valid reasons of leaving both the jobs?

Astha - OCPJP 6 (90%)
Jon Berg
Greenhorn

Joined: May 14, 2013
Posts: 1
Josh, I've been thinking about this for a while.

I'm pushing 40. I have a lot of experience, but I'm afraid of being labeled a .NET oldster forever.

I've taught myself JavaScript, JQuery, Node.js,. I'm in the San Francisco area where startups are desperate for developer talent, and I'm ready to rock, but who wants an aging .NET guy?

Suggestions?
Josh Fox
FiveYearItch Rep
Greenhorn

Joined: Apr 16, 2013
Posts: 15
    
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Astha Sharma wrote:Hi Josh,
-- I have good command on core java and have experience of developing Java web services for my Android projects. If I want to switch as Java developer, is it must to have knowledge of java frameworks to get good opportunity as 1 year experienced Java developer?


Astha, knowing frameworks is good, but the important thing is to prove your expertise. How about contributing open-source, writing a blog, or getting a certification? At more senior levels, knowing frameworks is not importnat -- it is expected that you can learn new ones fast. But still, you need to find ways to prove your abilities.

Astha Sharma wrote:Hi Josh,
-- I have worked in another company for first 6 months of my job. Now I am planning to leave my current company after working here for 6 months. Will switching companies in such less period effect opportunities for me for getting job even if I have valid reasons of leaving both the jobs?


Yes, job-hopping too frequently doesn't look good. If you're good enough, you can always find a new job, and you don't want to stay in a hellhole. But you don't want to look flakey.

How often do people change jobs in your industry? In the US, a rule of thumb is to work in one place for two years, with three years as an optimum. After five years, you start to look stale (which is where the FiveYearItch name comes from.
Josh Fox
FiveYearItch Rep
Greenhorn

Joined: Apr 16, 2013
Posts: 15
    
    5
Jon Berg wrote:Josh, I've been thinking about this for a while....
Suggestions?


Jon,

Yes, exactly! This is precisely what FiveYearitch was built to solve.

You need to let employers know of your experience, your skills, and your willingness to learn and to find new challenges. They appreciate that, but they don't know how to find you.

We made FiveYearitch anonymous so that you don't look desperate -- because you aren't, you have a comfortable job. This makes you into a more desirable candidate.

Of course, I may be biased towards FiveYearItch, so I should mention alternatives. The top alternative for finding a new job while not searching actively is a skilled recruiter who will devote time to finding you just the match you need -- and there are some such recruiters out there.
Astha Sharma
Ranch Hand

Joined: Oct 15, 2011
Posts: 245

Thanks for the reply Josh.
Josh Fox wrote:How often do people change jobs in your industry? In the US, a rule of thumb is to work in one place for two years, with three years as an optimum. After five years, you start to look stale (which is where the FiveYearItch name comes from.

I am from India. Here it all depends on the company whether they want the employee to sign a bond with them for a particular time period. In my current company I have signed 6 months contract. After completing the contract period, I can renew my contract for another 6 months if I want to.
Bill Clar
Ranch Hand

Joined: Sep 21, 2006
Posts: 150

Josh,

I watched your intro video and I felt like it was speaking to me directly. I've got the 10 year itch at my soulless job.

Can you disclose the number of companies that use Five Year Itch?
Josh Fox
FiveYearItch Rep
Greenhorn

Joined: Apr 16, 2013
Posts: 15
    
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Bill, interest in FiveYearItch is strong and the number of employers and developers is growing every day. We were excited to see it go so well in our beta. Some featured companies listed at the FiveYearItch "About" page.
Josh Fox
FiveYearItch Rep
Greenhorn

Joined: Apr 16, 2013
Posts: 15
    
    5
Bill,

Bill Clar wrote:I watched your intro video and I felt like it was speaking to me directly.

Good to hear that we're not the only ones thinking this way.
Bill Clar wrote:I've got the 10 year itch at my soulless job.

I'd say: "Run away, run away, escape whle you still can!", except I don't want to be too dramatic

Interest in FiveYearItch is strong and the number of employers and developers is growing every day. We were excited to see it go so well in our beta. Some featured companies listed at the FiveYearItch "About" page.
 
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