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Bear Bibeault
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Not to be outdone by Apple's announcements today, Sony has finally revealed the PS4.



What a surprise, it looks like a box!

They also announced no requirement to dial into the mothership every 24 hours, and used games and lending games are A-OK. Clearly a nose-thumbing at Microsoft.


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LOL. If there was any question that they are thumbing their noses at the X Box:

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Holy crap that thing's ugly!
Still must have it though


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100 USD cheaper than xbox one ... hard slap on Microsoft ;)
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Bear Bibeault wrote:LOL. If there was any question that they are thumbing their noses at the X Box:


It is an interesting idea. Kill the used game market, and you will sell more games.... However, I don't think Microsoft may have thought it all the way through. I wonder how many gamers are now willing to pay $60 for a game, knowing that they won't get some of it back when they sell the game. It will be interesting to know how this idea turns out though.

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Doesn't restricting the resale of games violate the First Sale Doctrine?


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fred rosenberger wrote:Doesn't restricting the resale of games violate the First Sale Doctrine?


I am sure that the lawyers are all over this. Most software is not "sold" rather it is licensed. All carefully described in the EULA in 0.1 point type that everyone reads carefully before use.

I think that the world of $60 games is on a death spiral. $5 games on phones meet nearly the same revenue, and at lower cost. The real money will be in networked games at $5, like WOW.
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That is the EULA that is inside the box, so you can't read it until you open it, but once you open it, you can't return it, right?
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Catch-22
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I think that the world of $60 games is on a death spiral. $5 games on phones meet nearly the same revenue, and at lower cost. The real money will be in networked games at $5, like WOW.


While there are games on your phone / PC that sell in-app content and make revenues from that, making them a success in the market is quite tough. Zynga is a case in point. Farmville did well for them but you cannot have hits all the time. I've not seen anything to suggest that folks tend to gravitate towards games with in-app purchases. I tend to look at them as another market entirely.

Other interesting moves I've seen on consoles are the Playstation plus subscription model from Sony ( launched back in 2010) and purchasing games through other games ( Super Luigi-U from Super Mario-U ) on Nintendo. Vendors are constantly looking for new revenue streams.


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Today, Microsoft caved. They announced that contrary to prior information, the new Xbox One will not require an internet connection, and will not prevent resale of used games.

I think Sony beat them seriously on this topic.
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Not much of a surprise. They got spanked pretty badly about the whole thing. The days of Microsoft being able to push its weight around and force everyone else to fall into line are long long gone. I think they're just now beginning to realize it.
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Bear Bibeault wrote:The days of Microsoft being able to push its weight around and force everyone else ...


They also lost on Windows 8, they are putting the start button and the desktop into release 8.1
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