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Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:I'd argue that for some people [religion] does. Some people/groups have morality and religion intertwined.
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fred rosenberger wrote:But is that religion that makes them better, or the morality? Surely the two are separate. A person can have morals and no religion, and can have religion and no morals.
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Bert Bates wrote:It's really common for the question of the source of morality to enter in to this discussion. Perhaps worth a separate thread...
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Bert Bates wrote:It's really common for the question of the source of morality to enter in to this discussion. Perhaps worth a separate thread...
Bert Bates wrote:A couple of obvious points though:
- All the major scripture is filled with immorality, so you have to do huge amounts of cherry-picking to get morality from scripture.
- How is it that some of us claim to know how to *correctly* interpret the same scripture that's available for all of us to read? Do some of us get a secret decoder ring?
Steve
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chris webster wrote:Incidentally, I'm an atheist but I still don't believe religion "poisons everything", quite the contrary: JS Bach was profoundly religious and it inspired him to create some of the most sublime music ever made.
Paul Clapham wrote:
chris webster wrote:Incidentally, I'm an atheist but I still don't believe religion "poisons everything", quite the contrary: JS Bach was profoundly religious and it inspired him to create some of the most sublime music ever made.
But that's cherry-picking.
There are many other people who wrote lots of very good music -- Giuseppe Verdi for example -- who weren't at all religious.
Picking one example where religion didn't poison something doesn't prove that religion never poisons something.
Steve
Bert Bates wrote:On the other hand, the religious make extraordinary, supernatural claims based on no evidence at all.
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Steve Luke wrote:
Paul Clapham wrote:
chris webster wrote:Incidentally, I'm an atheist but I still don't believe religion "poisons everything", quite the contrary: JS Bach was profoundly religious and it inspired him to create some of the most sublime music ever made.
But that's cherry-picking.
The contention was that religion poisons everything. Finding one example of something that isn't poisoned is enough to disprove the theorum.
Ernest Friedman-Hill wrote:I subscribe to a conception of God articulated by the founder of Reconstructionism, Rabbi Mordecai Kaplan; a weak paraphrase would be that God is those properties of the universe which make human life possible.
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