About Apache Turbine framework

I`m already familiar with struts framwork.
Today, wondering in jakarta web site, I came across turbine framework. It appears much like struts, also a MVC driven framwork, just more servlet-template-engine focused. Has anyone used Turbine? Can anyone make a indepth comparison of two framework? I wonder why Apache org. would host two projects of same purpose....

I think I'll spend some time looking into this. It does appear to be a more fully developed framework than Struts.
I am not surprised that multiple frameworks would be hosted at Apache. After all, no single framework will satisfy every organization's needs.

Great.
I think all framworks out there all do something better one another; we developers just need to know which do better fit for job.

I think, they are planning to put together all the pieces ( including prsistence framework Torque) and release it under one open source license.