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Fed up. I will resign today

Preeti Jamadade
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Joined: Aug 17, 2012
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I have 2 managers for my project. one from these announced me as a technical lead recently. From start of project i worked hard and made my application stable. Now 1 guy has been appointed as a team lead by other manager. Still i was doing technical lead level work. Now whenever any work is coming this person who is not involved actually in any work is jumping in just to write or reply some emails. I asked my manager to divide responsibilities so that we shall avoid conflicts in day to day work and told him that i aspire to be a technical lead now as everything is resolved by me. but my manager says that this new person is technical lead and you will be reporting to him.

I am bit frustrated with this now and thinking of resigning today. As my manager dont understand the technical capabilities and always ends in wrong decision. i have suffered a lot and now this is beyond limit. Any suggestions.
Ulf Dittmer
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Not sure what kind of feedback you're expecting. If you have concluded that the situation is not acceptable to you, and it is beyond your reach to improve it, you should think about moving on. Whether or not that means quitting today, or on any other day, depends on so many factors that are unique to you that it would be presumptuous of us to advise one way or another.


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Tim Cooke
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Doesn't sound like the best situation. I feel for you.

However, I would advise against being so hasty with your resignation. If you really feel that there is no resolution to the problem you are having with your current team/company, and that there are no other internal opportunities, then by all means start looking for alternative employment. But I would recommend you do not resign until you have secured another job. It would be hard to explain in a positive manner why you are currently unemployed by your own choosing.

Edit: Actually, what Ulf has said is more correct. I am only suggesting how I might go about it, which may or may not be the best for you.


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Junilu Lacar
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If you do end up resigning, make sure you have another job first. It's much easier to get another job when you still have one.


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Jayesh A Lalwani
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You have ranted about the same thing about 2 months ago. I'd say if this issue is not being resolved, it's time to move on
Deepak Bala
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I think you are stuck between a rock and a hard place and post on CR to help alleviate your feeling towards the situation. It wont help in the long run. You either work hard to move on to a better place or change the existing one into a workplace you'd like to come to everyday. It is hard to swallow that pill, but it is the only way.

However, I would advise against being so hasty with your resignation. If you really feel that there is no resolution to the problem you are having with your current team/company, and that there are no other internal opportunities, then by all means start looking for alternative employment. But I would recommend you do not resign until you have secured another job.


Good advice. +1


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Preeti Jamadade
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I think you are stuck between a rock and a hard place and post on CR to help alleviate your feeling towards the situation.


yes Deepak. It really feels sad when something you prepare with hard work and somebody else with less capability gets its ownership. I really get emotional with work i do and those are "My" things. i treat them like my own personal home things and care for it. My manager dont understand these as he is not aware of it. Just recently i was appreciated by client and all business users for the way i handle things. I have gained and earned that confidence showing them quality. I always think ahead about my team what else can be added. Some people which initially opposed me while i was leading now says that we are happy to have senior like you and we would like to work in this team as long as you are there.

I have very difficult time with this manager and have struggled lot to solve my issues with him. His wrong decisions have always made me suffer. Posting these feelings on javaranch, my mind gets somewhat relaxed and i get some other ways to think upon.

Its struggle always. Still i am going to explain all these to my PM and if nothing helps i will look for other opportunity where my capability will get way to implement things and grow as well.
Preeti Jamadade
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Today i had a meeting with my manager. Nothing changed. he didn't listen to me and had already made his decision. I told him all facts till date. Points he put were really irrelevant and no way convincing for me. This meeting added more frustration to me. I tried to find out some other thing which will help both without hurting anything like i asked for parallel role for 2 applications. I said i dont have issues reporting to this person but I need some authority atleast for 2 apps out of 5 so that i can add some value to it. As usual he was not ready to solve the issue and it got more critical.

I have tried to be more positive and optimistic about this decision throughout the meeting but he just dont want to change and takes things personally. People close to him are right for him and makes his perspective based on those people closer to him. Its not alone my experience in team. Somewhere i think now i cant continue with this and shall see for some other employment.
Tim Cooke
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Best of luck finding something new.

Let's hope they don't frequent Java Ranch and are put off by your "rants".
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Jan Cumps
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Did you resign?


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Preeti Jamadade
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not yet. I have started my search and preparation, i shall be doing it soon. One more thing manager has agreed to release me but no idea when. There are chances of minimizing number of resources in our project so may be possibility of release. But i will make some offer ready as i dont believe him. he is well known in project for his micromanagement and taking things at personal level.

Sometime back one resource in my team having 8 years experience resigned and was asking him to freeze release date in system everyday to plan next company joining. He was telling her that he is busy. One day he put a mail to her and told that today is her last day. this is horrible. In one more case he recalled confirmation of one guy actually conveyed by HR and put him again on probation. This is horrible.
Chan Ag
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one from these announced me as a technical lead recently


You should not believe in mere verbal announcements. That is lesson one I got in my first year.

I am bit frustrated with this now and thinking of resigning today.

Resigning because of people is often not a very good idea.


It really feels sad when something you prepare with hard work and somebody else with less capability gets its ownership.

I think you shouldn't. May be the work did not require a more skilled resource like you? You've been leading the team. You could instead be happy that one of your less skilled resource is being trusted upon to take up the challenge. You could mentor him and provide him the necessary pointers, not to mention say good words often to motivate him.

I really get emotional with work i do and those are "My" things. i treat them like my own personal home things and care for it. My manager dont understand these as he is not aware of it.

We have a hell lot of things to get emotional over. Why add work to it! I think there is nothing like "My things". A project is as much yours as it is anyone else's, senior or junior. You do not own more. They don't own any less.

Just recently i was appreciated by client and all business users for the way i handle things. I have gained and earned that confidence showing them quality. I always think ahead about my team what else can be added. Some people which initially opposed me while i was leading now says that we are happy to have senior like you and we would like to work in this team as long as you are there.

Congratulations. It takes a lot of patience and good work to get your team to support you and say that sort of a thing about you.

Good luck.

Chan.


Preeti Jamadade
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It really feels sad when something you prepare with hard work and somebody else with less capability gets its ownership.


I think you shouldn't. May be the work did not require a more skilled resource like you? You've been leading the team. You could instead be happy that one of your less skilled resource is being trusted upon to take up the challenge. You could mentor him and provide him the necessary pointers, not to mention say good words often to motivate him.


Thanks Chan for your points. I am not leading this team anymore and the person appointed as a lead is more senior and i cant suggest him anything as he is having 1 year more experience. Thing is i believe i could do more than him and already did somethings. i just wanted some authority somewhat parallel to him from technical perspective. I agree i should not resign just because of one or two person but i shall prepare with some offer now if things get worst due to cheap mentality of my manager.
Hitesh Djoshi
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In my personal opinion, you should ask for a project change. One in which you dont have to work in the team or with the manager. Leaving the company, which you like, for this is a bad idea.
One cautionary note- Once you start preparing and get a job offer outside. Its no looking back. It is close to impossible that your current company will try to retain you. Even if they did, the hike that you would get outside would make your current salary insignificant. You get incentivised to move out.
So unless you really hate your company , don't take that route. Ask for a project change and TL position now, preferably to your skip level manager.
Jayesh A Lalwani
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Even if your current company makes a counter offer that is much better than what you are getting, you shouldn't be taking the counter offer. Accepting a counter offer generally leads to bad things. Inside a counter offer disaster

Preeti Jamadade
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Wanted to update you on status of this issue. I tried to get released from this project and just had a meeting with senior manager. He listened and somewhat convinced with the things. He said i will release you from this team in next 2 months provided that you create your backup. But still I will have to work under same manager but some different application. My team lead will be changed. (That Sr. Manager thinks that TL is issue for me) As per him this will ensure that in case something breaks in current application they can use or take my help. I re-iterated that i don't want to work with this manager which was denied and told me that there is 18 months policy to work under one project then only you can get release from this manager.

I am thinking about this offer but ultimate issue wont get resolved with this as well as current manager gets all things personal. Clueless now. What should be my take now?
Jayesh A Lalwani
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I think if the senior manager understands your problem, and is taking steps to resolve it, then you should give him a chance to resolve it.
K. Tsang
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Reading your story is a bit frustrating.

It comes down to responsibility of the projects. From the look of things, you want to remain your responsible role in the projects but your managers don't allow it. Then let them take the blame if things go bad (playing "bad?" office politics).

Anyway my advice to you is start searching if you haven't. Worse case bluff your way that you have interviews and "waiting" for 2nds. This way management will think your current tasks "must" be hand over or completed ASAP because you can not come back tomorrow. But again you haven't submit your resignation so your bargaining power is a bit limited.


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Preeti Jamadade
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now my manager again denied putting me in some other team. This is height of frustration. As i said he takes it personal. I am blank now.
 
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