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Jayesh A Lalwani
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And never come back.. Oh and you will probably get cancer because of the radiation. But you will be on Mars

Mars one

Hope it's not a scam
Jesper de Jong
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We recently discussed this, there are serious plans to do this (it's not really a scam), but it's a one-way trip - you are going to die out there when you go.


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Martin Vajsar
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I wouldn't be too concerned about radiation specifically. Assuming the numbers on the respective page are correct, the radiation risks are in the generally accepted range for astronauts. There are other, more deadly risks to worry about. For example, 1.5% of the Space Shuttle cosmonauts have perished during their journey due to the failure of the vehicle.

A really big solar storm might prove to be deadly. But at the same time, a big solar storm might kill millions of people on the Earth too, just by shutting off most of the infrastructure for many weeks or even months. See solar storm of 1859.
Greg Charles
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Martin Vajsar wrote:For example, 1.5% of the Space Shuttle cosmonauts have perished during their journey due to the failure of the vehicle.


That's an odd statistic. Space Shuttles had only two catastrophic failures, and neither one was carrying cosmonauts. Where is this information from? I don't see it in your link.
Martin Vajsar
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I was referring to Challenger and Columbia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle#Shuttle_disasters) - two disasters out of 135 launches.

I'm not sure whether the confusion was caused by "cosmonauts", in my language this is the term used for "astronauts". Sorry about that.
Greg Charles
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Ah, got it. Yes, in English we call Americans astronauts and Russians cosmonauts, hence my confusion. Just a little artifact from the Cold War I guess. You're right the mission disaster ratio was about 1.5%. Actually though, 14 people perished in those two disasters, and only 355 ever rode in a Space Shuttle ... some more than once of course ... so the death toll is more like 4%.

All in all, I'm not sure I'd buy myself a ticket on that Mars shot. I have a long list of people I'd buy tickets for though. I'm just generous that way.
Jayesh A Lalwani
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The reason I'm skeptical about this is because I'm generally skeptical about anything that wants me to pay to get the "privilege" of doing work for them. Sure, it's a small amount, and it's a once in many lifetimes opportunity, but it's the principle of it

ALso,k it looks like most of the funding is going to come from the reality shows that they are going to create. I am wary of the kind of people who get on reality shows. It seems like most of them are in it just to get themselves on TV. I don't feel very confident putting my life in Honey Boo Boo's hands.
Jeanne Boyarsky
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They now have a roadmap/timeline. The gist is that a rover goes in 2018 and humans in 2022.


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J. Kevin Robbins
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What's amazing to me is that 100,000 people have applied for the mission. It seems there are many people who are more than willing to die for a chance to step foot on another planet.


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Pat Farrell
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Greg Charles wrote:You're right the mission disaster ratio was about 1.5%. Actually though, 14 people perished in those two disasters, and only 355 ever rode in a Space Shuttle ... some more than once of course ... so the death toll is more like 4%.


The American Space Shuttle program was a disaster at so many levels. It was sold as a reliable space truck. It had a tiny load capacity, cost a zillion dollars per flight, and killed lots of its passengers. I never understood why the US public thought it was such a good idea.

You've probably got better chances on this silly Mars shot.

I wonder what the demographics of the passengers will be. Probably older guys. Need some young women if you expect to populate the planet, and the young women might prefer some handsome young men....
Jayesh A Lalwani
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I can understand the attraction behind this. You are a pioneer. You'll be the start of something new. And you will certainly immortalize yourself for years and years to come. If I was certain that this is not a scam, and I was a bit more hardy, I would have signed up

Wow, Pat!! You are all going "How I learnt to love the bomb" on this aren't you?
I don;t think the first people to reach there will be able to have kids. It says so on the site that the medical facilities will not be appropriate for kids. And if this is real, I am most certain they are going to screen out people who are going to "spread their seed". The first people will need to setup the habitat so future explorers will be able to have children there. Considering the time scales involved and the kind of damage that space travel will inflict, a middle-aged man who signs up today will probably die before the habitat will be ready for children.

I can see the attraction for a middle aged men to sign up for this. It might be a way to resolve your middle age crisis, you know You are in your middle age. You are relatively healthy. You are dissatisfied with how your career is progressed or are just plain tired of it. You know things are going downhill from now. Why not take the shot to achieve greatness? Things are not going to get any better on earth!
Jeanne Boyarsky
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Jayesh A Lalwani wrote:If I was certain that this is not a scam, and I was a bit more hardy, I would have signed up

While I don't want to go to Mars, I feel confident this isn't a scam. I don't know that they will be successful, but I do believe that they are TRYING to go to Mars. They've spent a lot of money on research/planning. They are using the application fees to cover the costs of going thru applications, interviewing people, etc.

Jayesh A Lalwani wrote:I don;t think the first people to reach there will be able to have kids. It says so on the site that the medical facilities will not be appropriate for kids.

Agreed. The plan is to send more people if it works. This is just to start the process and get stability. (In the best case. In the worst case, we learn "how not to go to Mars"). You can't spread humanity with just a handful of people anyway.
Jayesh A Lalwani
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Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:They are using the application fees to cover the costs of going thru applications, interviewing people, etc.


If they are truly viable as a company, they should easily be able to get funding. Why do they need to take money from the applicants? As far as I see their business plan is to turn this into a long running reality show that will be used to fund the project. It's very easy to get funding for reality shows. Silly Big Brother like shows don't take money from contestants. Besides, this is such an ambitious project they can easily get a billionaire to throw some money their way in return for putting his/her name on the side of the rocket. I bet someone like Richard Branson would jump on this in one second. I bet the reason they aren't able to get a big name like that to back them up is because they aren't able to convince someone that this is viable

Right now, it smells like world's biggest Nigerian scam to me. I hope that it isn't. I would be happy to be wrong.
Jeanne Boyarsky
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They got over 200,000 applications to go to/die on Mars.
 
 
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