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Hudson Continuous Integration in Practice: misuse

 
Yvette Schat
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Hello Ed & Winston,

I am probably misusing Hudson in our projects...

Nevertheless, Hudson is doing a great job continuously monitoring
the accessibility of our databases and our web sites.

The reason why Hudson is not used as I would like it to has more
to do with the technology we use to develop our applications:
PL/SQL.

I think it is less straight forward to automatically test, deploy, etc.
Oracle code.

What do you think, am I looking in the wrong direction?

Best regards,

Yvette
 
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Yvette, how exactly are you using Hudson for these projects? You mention that you perhaps are misusing it, but I don't see enough details on why you think so.
 
Yvette Schat
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Hello Jaikiran,

I should have probably used the term 'underuse'...

Hudson is running simple hourly scripts that check whether databases are accessible
and one slightly more complicated script to deploy (ColdFusion) code via ftp...

I am not using it to perform unit tests on the PL/SQL code or deploying the PL/SQL
code...what I reckon to be the core objective of a tool like Hudson.

Yvette
 
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Hello Yvette,

I wouldn't call that misuse, or even underuse. The key value Hudson brings to the picture is to reduce the cost of automation. Even if it's just doing things that you could otherwise do with a cron(8) job, it's still a valid use. Consider the appendix B in the book. This advocates using a personal Hudson instance to automate things such as workspace maintenance on an individual contributor's workstation.

Now, regarding the separate and more interesting question of how easy it is to configure and maintain Oracle's software, that's a product level concern. In my day-job, I work on GlassFish, and I must say that while it's easier to configure than WebLogic, there are still some challenges. What Hudson tries to bring to the picture is to make it possible to get useful things done, even when the other tools in the toolchain are not so well suited to automation.

Ed
 
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