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Can SCEA preparation book be used to be prepared for OCMJEA 6?

Ketan Prajapati
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Hi,

I am new bee in JavaRanch. Appologies for any typo in advance.

I am planning to have OCMJEA EE 6 exam step -1 this year. My question is related to preparation books.

Can book "Sun certified enterprise architect Java EE study guide (2nd Edition) used to be prepare for
'1Z1-807 Java EE 6 Enterprise Architect Certified Master Exam' ?

I wonder because the book, I mentioned above is based on Java EE 5 and can it be used for Java EE 6 exam ?

Please suggest me and also suggest some other good books to be prepared for this exam.

Thanks,
Ketan
Jeanne Boyarsky
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Ketan,
Welcome to CodeRanch!

It would be better to use a OCMJEA 6 book. However, since there isn't one, the SCEA 5 books are better than nothing. You'll need to study the additional topics/updates to JEE for JEE 6 separately though.


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Ketan Prajapati
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Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:Ketan,
Welcome to CodeRanch!

It would be better to use a OCMJEA 6 book. However, since there isn't one, the SCEA 5 books are better than nothing. You'll need to study the additional topics/updates to JEE for JEE 6 separately though.


Thanks Jeanne for prompt reply.

As you stated , OCMJEA 6 book is not available and also it is scheduled to be launched in August 2014.
Can I start with SCEA guide by Cade and Sheil (Java EE 5) and others avilable for Java EE 6.

Also it will be good if you suggest some good books .

Thanks,
Ketan
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Ketan Prajapati wrote:As you stated , OCMJEA 6 book is not available and also it is scheduled to be launched in August 2014.
Can I start with SCEA guide by Cade and Sheil (Java EE 5) and others avilable for Java EE 6.

Yes. I liked Cade and Sheil. I'd supplement that with the JEE 6 tutorial. I don't have any particular books in mind.
Ketan Prajapati
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Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:
Ketan Prajapati wrote:As you stated , OCMJEA 6 book is not available and also it is scheduled to be launched in August 2014.
Can I start with SCEA guide by Cade and Sheil (Java EE 5) and others avilable for Java EE 6.

Yes. I liked Cade and Sheil. I'd supplement that with the JEE 6 tutorial. I don't have any particular books in mind.


Thanks again for great support.

So I am planning as mentioned underneath, please correct me if I am wrong.

1. I will start SCEA EE 5 by Cade and Sheil.Plan here is to cover all EE 5 topics.
2. For EE 6 , will go through books suggested in other blogs.

Please suggest.
Jeanne Boyarsky
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Agreed. That sounds like a good plan.
Ketan Prajapati
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Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:Agreed. That sounds like a good plan.


Thanks a ton , Jeanne.

You have helped me and guided me in kick start of my Architect Role Journey.
Fernando Franzini
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Hello Ketan
Wellcome to javaranch.
Here are my tips and books suggested - http://fernandofranzini.wordpress.com/2013/05/03/my-tips-on-ocmjea/
Enjoy your studies!


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Ketan Prajapati
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Fernando Franzini wrote:Hello Ketan
Wellcome to javaranch.
Here are my tips and books suggested - http://fernandofranzini.wordpress.com/2013/05/03/my-tips-on-ocmjea/
Enjoy your studies!


Hi Fernando,

Thanks for sharing your view, I read your blog and it is inspiring a lot.

My question is , I want to pass OCMJEA EE 6 and hence , books you shared for step-1 which are for EE 5.
So Are they enough to clear Step - 1 of EE 6?

Thanks,
Ketan
Fernando Franzini
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Ki Ketan

I do not have time now to do this ... you need to compare the contents of the book with the topics of the new version of the certification. I believe that to use the books.
Happy new year...
Elizaba Thomas
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Hi all,
I am new to this forum... I attempted the OCMJEA 6 exam recently but didnt manage to pass . Scored only 70% . Required was 71%. Missed by 1%.

I would like to know if there are any good exam practice simulators ... I bought the one from ePractize labs. And obviously that didnt suffice.

I believe practicing more questions is better than reading endlessly ... Can anyone guide me on this?

Thanks
Elizaba
Mikalai Zaikin
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Elizaba Thomas wrote:Hi all,
I am new to this forum... I attempted the OCMJEA 6 exam recently but didnt manage to pass . Scored only 70% . Required was 71%. Missed by 1%.



Hi,

Interesting.. I also failed by 1% (70% v.s. 71%), but I took beta test.

Did you take a production test ?

Best regards,
MZ


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Elizaba Thomas
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Thanks for the prompt reply Mikalai ... I did the production one ...

Let me also add, There was one question regarding message level security ... It goes like this


Q- Which two statements are true about security strategies at the message level?
A. Messages are secured during transport and after arrival at their destination
B. Each portion of a compound message is secured.
C. SSL is required to ensure authenticity, integrity, and confidentiality.
D. Message attachments are secured without the need for a dedicated API.
E. Security is dependent on the application environment or the transport protocol.

I got the question from one of the mock exams i found online (after I attempted the exam ! ) They have answered C,E (I know for sure E is not an answer !! )

I answered, A and C - And I am pretty much sure the answer is correct

My exam results details that I had answered the one of message level security wrongly !!!

I realize most of the exams published online give wrong answers!

I am wondering if Oracle accepts re-evaluation !


Mikalai Zaikin
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Elizaba Thomas wrote:Thanks for the prompt reply Mikalai ... I did the production one ...

Let me also add, There was one question regarding message level security ... It goes like this


Q- Which two statements are true about security strategies at the message level?
A. Messages are secured during transport and after arrival at their destination
B. Each portion of a compound message is secured.
C. SSL is required to ensure authenticity, integrity, and confidentiality.
D. Message attachments are secured without the need for a dedicated API.
E. Security is dependent on the application environment or the transport protocol.

I got the question from one of the mock exams i found online (after I attempted the exam ! ) They have answered C,E (I know for sure E is not an answer !! )

I answered, A and C - And I am pretty much sure the answer is correct

My exam results details that I had answered the one of message level security wrongly !!!

I realize most of the exams published online give wrong answers!

I am wondering if Oracle accepts re-evaluation !




Hello,

I would answer the same:

A (Messages are secured during transport and after arrival at their destination)
C (SSL is required to ensure authenticity, integrity, and confidentiality.)

It explained in Java EE 6 tutorial here: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19798-01/821-1841/bnbxd/index.html

A – true (Security stays with the message over all hops and after the message arrives at its destination.)
B – false (For example, a portion of the message may be signed by a sender and encrypted for a particular receiver.)
C – true
D – false (Security can be selectively applied to different portions of a message and, if using XML Web Services Security, to attachments.)
E – false (Message security is independent of the application environment or transport protocol.)

So, I believe you answered this question correctly

Best regards,
MZ

P.S. Note, the online sample tests may be totally wrong, so take those questions and answers with caution.
Elizaba Thomas
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Thanks Mikalai

Do you know of any good practice exams which I could purchase?
Mikalai Zaikin
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Elizaba Thomas wrote:Thanks Mikalai

Do you know of any good practice exams which I could purchase?


Sorry, I don't know any good practice exam for Java EE 6 architect exam.

In general, there are very few feedbacks about new exam, mostly from beta period.

I did not see any feedback about production 1Z0-807 here (besides your post).

Best regards,
MZ
Shankar sanjay
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Hi,

I had look on the OCMJEA 6 syllabus and Cade and Sheil book, found lot of differences in design pattern topic. you have to cover only few design patterns, at least exam point of view, to get rid of the exam in design pattern topic.



cmjea 6
======
• Demonstrate knowledge of Java EE design patterns including: Service Starter, Singleton, Bean Locator, Resource Binder, Dependency Inj ection, Payload Extractor, Context Holder, and Thread Tracker.
• Select an appropriate pattern for a given application challenge from the following: Facade, Strategy, Observer, Composite, and Abstract Factory.
• Identify a design pattern, using a description of its features, from the following: Facade, Strategy, Observer, Composite, and Abstract Factory.
• Identify the use of the law of leaky abstractions or a specific anti-pattern in a given scenario.





cmjea 5
======
From a list, select the most appropriate pattern for a given scenario. Patterns are limited to those documented in the book - Alur, Crupi and Malks (2003). Core J2EE Patterns: Best Practices and Design Strategies 2nd Edition and named using the names given in that book.
From a list, select the most appropriate pattern for a given scenario. Patterns are limited to those documented in the book - Gamma, Erich; Richard Helm, Ralph Johnson, and John Vlissides (1995). Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software and are named using the names given in that book.
Select from a list the benefits and drawbacks of a pattern drawn from the book - Gamma, Erich; Richard Helm, Ralph Johnson, and John Vlissides (1995). Design Patterns: Elements of Reusable Object-Oriented Software.
Select from a list the benefits and drawbacks of a specified Core J2EE pattern drawn from the book - Alur, Crupi and Malks (2003). Core J2EE Patterns: Best Practices and Design Strategies 2nd Edition.


Hence my suggestion is go thru the exam topics and be clear on those rather covering few design pattern books :-)
Mikalai Zaikin
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Demonstrate knowledge of Java EE design patterns including: Service Starter, Singleton, Bean Locator, Resource Binder, Dependency Inj ection, Payload Extractor, Context Holder, and Thread Tracker.


These are design patterns from Adam Bien's book "Real World Java EE Patterns Rethinking Best Practices", so you should refer it for sure.
Shankar sanjay
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In OCMJEA-6, UML Portion completed moved to part II exam.
effie armani
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Mikalai Zaikin wrote:
Elizaba Thomas wrote:Thanks for the prompt reply Mikalai ... I did the production one ...

Let me also add, There was one question regarding message level security ... It goes like this


Q- Which two statements are true about security strategies at the message level?
A. Messages are secured during transport and after arrival at their destination
B. Each portion of a compound message is secured.
C. SSL is required to ensure authenticity, integrity, and confidentiality.
D. Message attachments are secured without the need for a dedicated API.
E. Security is dependent on the application environment or the transport protocol.

I got the question from one of the mock exams i found online (after I attempted the exam ! ) They have answered C,E (I know for sure E is not an answer !! )

I answered, A and C - And I am pretty much sure the answer is correct

My exam results details that I had answered the one of message level security wrongly !!!

I realize most of the exams published online give wrong answers!

I am wondering if Oracle accepts re-evaluation !




Hello,

I would answer the same:

A (Messages are secured during transport and after arrival at their destination)
C (SSL is required to ensure authenticity, integrity, and confidentiality.)

It explained in Java EE 6 tutorial here: http://docs.oracle.com/cd/E19798-01/821-1841/bnbxd/index.html

A – true (Security stays with the message over all hops and after the message arrives at its destination.)
B – false (For example, a portion of the message may be signed by a sender and encrypted for a particular receiver.)
C – true
D – false (Security can be selectively applied to different portions of a message and, if using XML Web Services Security, to attachments.)
E – false (Message security is independent of the application environment or transport protocol.)

So, I believe you answered this question correctly

Best regards,
MZ

P.S. Note, the online sample tests may be totally wrong, so take those questions and answers with caution.


Hello,

How could C be a correct answer since this is a correct statement for transport level security and the question is about message level strategies...


//BR
 
 
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