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Which Java Cert to take(never took one before)

James Hambrick
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I had a handle on the certs before Sun was bought by Oracle(been awhile since I've looked at them). Now I have no idea which test to take and what prerequisites there are. Once I figure out which test then I need to find the best book for the test. I like the Sierra/Bates books. I actually have this book now and I have studied it for awhlie

SCJP Sun Certified Programmer for Java 6 Exam 310-065--Sierra/Bates

I have no work experience with Java but I have taken a college course on it and use it at home. I want to become a Java developer and hope that this certification will help me find a job doing that.

In summary
1. What test to take?
2. What book to study?
3. In your opinion can someone without Java work experience and a cert get a non entry level Java job?

If this has already been asked then please link to the post, I did a search and did not find anything.

Thanks,


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Nam Ha Minh
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Joined: Oct 31, 2011
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- Which test? SCJP is outdated, as most candidates are now going to take the latest one - OCPJP 7.
- Books? Not many options, I think. There are two good books described here.
- In your opinion can someone without Java work experience and a cert get a non entry level Java job?
Why not? One can only cram and get the certification.

Just a side note, I got SCJP 5 - 6 years ago.
James Hambrick
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Can I take the OCPJP7 without any prerequisites? I seen on the Oracle site that the programmer cert required the associate cert first which required the programmer cert before that. So this is confusing to me.

On the site linked above talking about the OCPJP7
"To get certified with this certification, the candidates must be already certified with the OCAJP (Oracle Certified Associate, Java SE Programmer). However, there is no prerequisite to take the OCPJP exam (code: 1Z0-804). If you were certified with SCJP 5 or OCPJP 6, you can take the upgrade exam 1Z0-805."

So in one sentence it says you must take the OCAJP before the OCPJP7 then in teh very next sentence it says you don't have to. Which is it?
Andrea Black
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I think I get it. You CAN take the OCPJP (804), the Programmer II exam, without having first taken the OCAJP (803), the Programmer I exam.
HOWEVER…to be considered "certified"-- I guess they mean certified completely--you need to have both.
Nam Ha Minh
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James Hambrick wrote:Can I take the OCPJP7 without any prerequisites? I seen on the Oracle site that the programmer cert required the associate cert first which required the programmer cert before that. So this is confusing to me.

On the site linked above talking about the OCPJP7
"To get certified with this certification, the candidates must be already certified with the OCAJP (Oracle Certified Associate, Java SE Programmer). However, there is no prerequisite to take the OCPJP exam (code: 1Z0-804). If you were certified with SCJP 5 or OCPJP 6, you can take the upgrade exam 1Z0-805."

So in one sentence it says you must take the OCAJP before the OCPJP7 then in teh very next sentence it says you don't have to. Which is it?


Note that, 'being certified' and 'taking the exam' are different meanings. You can take the exam anyway, but to be certified, you must have the prerequisite.
Andrea Black
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At first I was worried that I would have nothing to show for the 803 exam, until I took the 804, but I did indeed get a link to a certificate. So that's good.
Kagiso Chabanga
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James Hambrick wrote:Can I take the OCPJP7 without any prerequisites? I seen on the Oracle site that the programmer cert required the associate cert first which required the programmer cert before that. So this is confusing to me.

On the site linked above talking about the OCPJP7
"To get certified with this certification, the candidates must be already certified with the OCAJP (Oracle Certified Associate, Java SE Programmer). However, there is no prerequisite to take the OCPJP exam (code: 1Z0-804). If you were certified with SCJP 5 or OCPJP 6, you can take the upgrade exam 1Z0-805."

So in one sentence it says you must take the OCAJP before the OCPJP7 then in teh very next sentence it says you don't have to. Which is it?


It only means that if you have never passed earlier java exams (e.g SCJP5, SCJP/OCPJP 6) before, you must pass 1z0-803 before taking 1z0-804
But if you've been certified before(passed earlier java exams) you can take 1z0-805 exam, which leads to the same credential as 1z0-804
 
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