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Farakh khan
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Is there any source code or software available for hosting business that provide the 100% solutions. I have a dedicated server and want to start java/oracle hosting business

thanks & kind regards
Marco Ehrentreich
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Hi Farakh,

I think the answer depends on what "hosting business" means for you!

Do you really think you can provide 24x7 hosting for customers with only one dedicated server? If you really want to do this you would have to prepare a rock solid foundation before you may even think about Java or Oracle software. There is much more to it than just having one single server and installing a JDK and RDMBS First you have to think about the infrastructure you need. You need hardware (more hardware than just one server) ranging from a really good backup solution to fail over support or load balancing for example. You also need a sufficient and stable OS to run on your server(s). And most probably some management and monitoring tools because even a simple log file filling your hard disk may shutdown your "business". There's a lot more to think about if you seriously want to provide hosting solutions for customers... Or did I get you completely wrong?

Marco
Farakh khan
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Originally posted by Marco Ehrentreich:
Hi Farakh,

I think the answer depends on what "hosting business" means for you!

Do you really think you can provide 24x7 hosting for customers with only one dedicated server? If you really want to do this you would have to prepare a rock solid foundation before you may even think about Java or Oracle software. There is much more to it than just having one single server and installing a JDK and RDMBS First you have to think about the infrastructure you need. You need hardware (more hardware than just one server) ranging from a really good backup solution to fail over support or load balancing for example. You also need a sufficient and stable OS to run on your server(s). And most probably some management and monitoring tools because even a simple log file filling your hard disk may shutdown your "business". There's a lot more to think about if you seriously want to provide hosting solutions for customers... Or did I get you completely wrong?

Marco


You got my idea. What you advice may I run it or not or if I run this then what should I have to do to provide strong hosting business?

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Ulf Dittmer
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I'd suggest you look at the features of existing hosting companies, and ask yourself how you would provide those. As Marco said, there's a huge difference between you hosting several of your applications on a server, and a number of other people hosting their applications on the same server.

Once you've got all that figured out -and by far the easiest way to do that would be to buy management and monitoring software- you've got to think about marketing and competition: There are tons of hosting companies out there - why would people use yours?

Good luck.
[ October 06, 2008: Message edited by: Ulf Dittmer ]

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Farakh khan
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Originally posted by Ulf Dittmer:
I'd suggest you look at the features of existing hosting companies, and ask yourself how you would provide those. As Marco said, there's a huge difference between you hosting several of your applications on a server, and a number of other people hosting their applications on the same server.

Once you've got all that figured out -and by far the easiest way to do that would be to buy management and monitoring software- you've got to think about marketing and competition: There are tons of hosting companies out there - why would people use yours?

Good luck.

[ October 06, 2008: Message edited by: Ulf Dittmer ]


You are right there is tough competition and tons of companies. I am also afraid of their monopoly so better to not take risk

I really thankful to all who have given their precious opnions

thanks again & best regards
Marco Ehrentreich
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Hi Farakh,

i hope you have success with your idea if you're really going to try it. But as Ulf already told you, you shouldn't forget the competition on the market. I've got a lot of experiences in administrating servers for production use and it seems your approach is a bit naive. Please don't get me wrong. It's absolutely OK if you know what you're doing but be warned that there's a lot of work behind the scenes if you want to do your job well which you may not be aware of.

Let me just give a simple example. You said you want to provide 100% solutions which is not very realistic. Let's take only 99.99%. If you want to guarantee 99.99% availability of your service to your customers this means you have 52.56 minutes per year for all downtimes of your service. These 52 minutes include the time to repair all hardware defects, to have possible downtimes for updates etc. This is almost impossible to achieve with one ordinary server. This is only one aspect of all problems you'll have to face and there are many more. You could solve this problem with more and more expensive hardware which means more money you'd have to invest in this project. And as Ulf pointed out this is only a good idea if you really find good reasons why customers should prefer your service in contrast to the service of competitors.

This is just my opinion but you should a least think about it...

Marco
Farakh khan
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Joined: Mar 22, 2008
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Dear Marco Ehrentreich,

Thanks for your favorable reply to provide me your precious time and details. Appreciated!

Thanks again & best regards
 
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