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Passed the 1Z0-808 Java SE 8 Programmer I exam with 94% (my experience with in detail)

 
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Note: I know that it is not legal to share actual exam questions. Therefore all examples have been changed in the following post and similar codes have been used.

First of all I want to say that I am an economist and I had had two years experiences of working with java when I started preparing for the certification exam. Everything began after buying “OCA: Oracle Certified Associate Java SE 8 Programmer I Study Guide: Exam 1Z0-808” by Jeanne Boyarsky & Scott Selikoff (later it will be mentioned as SYBEX). My English level was not good enough and first days I managed to read only 1 page per hour by using dictionary. I spent 7-8 hours to study and was able to finish reading only ~8-10 pages in a day. I wrote all code examples written in the book again in IDE/notepad in order to learn topics well.

Firstly, I read “Introduction”, then “Appendix B”. Then I took “Assessment Test” before starting Chapter 1. I could answer 3-4 questions hardly, and didn’t know others. Everything was difficult for me when I was a newbie. I was afraid that I would not be able to pass the exam. Sometimes I gave up, wanted to stop studying and thought that I did not have a potential to pass the exam. However, it was my goal to get the certificate and I had promised myself that I would do it. Despite the fact that my fears, uncertainty continued for a month, gradually I started to believe in myself.

After reading all chapters once my results of review questions were as follows (without time limit):
  • Chapter 1 – 74%
  • Chapter 2 – 55%
  • Chapter 3 – 66.7%
  • Chapter 4 – 62.1%
  • Chapter 5 – 60%
  • Chapter 6 – 60%

  • I spent a lot of time on answering questions. I couldn’t get used to code format of questions. At the exam I would have ~2 minutes for each question and because of that I had to learn how to manage my time effectively. After reading the recommendation shown in the link I started using Notepad instead of IDE (applied it from chapter 4). I found this technique very helpful. First days it was very hard to me but then I enjoyed it. Finally, I could keep in mind that length belongs to array and length() to String. It was very helpful for me to use notepad and javac/java.

    The book recommends you to read the chapter again if your score of review questions is less than 80%. All my results were less than 80% so I had to read the whole book again. But I decided to do some more tests before revision to find out which parts confused me most so that I could know which topics I had to focus on.

    “OCA Java SE 7 Programmer I Certification Guide”, Mala Gupta, Sample exam questions:
  • Chapter 1 – 63.6%
  • Chapter 2 – 70%
  • Chapter 3 – 50%
  • Chapter 4 – 45.5%
  • Chapter 5 – 60%
  • Chapter 6 – 70%
  • Chapter 7 – 70%
  • Full Mock Exam – 82.2%

  • “OCA/OCP Java SE 7 Programmer I & II Study Guide”, Kathy Sierra and Bert Bates, Self Test:
  • Chapter 1 – 88.9%
  • Chapter 2 – 75%
  • Chapter 3 – 84.6%
  • Chapter 4 – 87.5%
  • Chapter 5 – 75%
  • Chapter 6 – 80%

  • After finishing the tests shown above, I started revising SYBEX book and decided to take notes. At first I wrote my notes in a copybook but then I changed my mind and took my notes in a word document (in my native language). I finished revision and my results after second attempt were as follows (approximately after three months and with time limit (using online material):

    Second attemptComparison with first attempt
    Chapter 1 – 91.3%     74%
    Chapter 2 – 100%     55%
    Chapter 3 – 84.85%     66.7%
    Chapter 4 – 93.1%     62.1%
    Chapter 5 – 70%     60%
    Chapter 6 – 90%     60%
    Assessment test – 65%


    In my summer holiday I hadn't taken my laptop with me, so I downloaded some java quizes from google play market to my mobile phone and started doing their tests. The questions of the quizes were simple, but they helped me to increase my speed in answering questions. I used AIDE app as compiler and jre to test confused questions. It helped me a lot too.

    Then I took SYBEX practise exams:
  • Practise Exam 1 – 80%,     97 minutes
  • Practise Exam 2 – 82%,     83 minutes
  • Practise Exam 3 – 83%,     95 minutes

  • Later “OCA/OCP Java SE 7 Programmer I & II Study Guide”, Kathy Sierra and Bert Bates, Practise Exams (it was difficult enough):
  • OCA Test 1 – 80%,     116 minutes
  • OCA Test 2 – 75%,     110 minutes


  • Until here the most difficult questions for me have been shown below:
    1) “Which of the following statements are true?” – type questions because of my english level. Sometimes you may make mistake with a very easy question if you don’t know the correct translation of even one word.
    2) “Choose all that apply” – type questions. Because sometimes the number of answers I chose was either less or more than the number of correct answers.


    I had already decided to buy Enthuware questions bank in the middle of my exam preparation because most of the exam takers praised Enthuware in their experiences. Firstly, I installed trial version of Enthuware and took Sample Test. I liked questions a lot and bought full version.
    Then I took Standard Tests.

    My results of Enthuware Standard Tests:
    Foundation Test – 79%     
    Test 1 – 88%     
    Test 2 – 94%     
    Test 3 – 78%     
    Test 4 – 87%     
    Test 5 – 92%     
    Test 6 – 94%     

    I read the explanations of all questions regardless I had answered them correctly or incorrectly and sometimes I learned new things from explanations which I didn’t know so far. When I couldn’t understand the explanation of some questions, I clicked “discuss” button and looked at forum discussion. Sometimes I couldn’t understand discussion because of my english, in these cases I read the posts over again and again.

    I registered for actual exam after finishing Standard Tests (except for Last Day Test). A week before the exam I started going through my notes. My notes were about 150 pages and I took Enthuware Objective–wise Tests after finishing each chapter. I finished all preparations 2 days prior to the exam. I took the last Standard Test on Saturday:
  • Last Day Test90%

  • I had a rest on Sunday and went to the exam on Monday.

    At the beginning I couldn’t overcome my exam anxiety and as the first questions were difficult they made me more nervous. However, an hour later I was able to concentrate on the exam. Most of the exam takers say that the actual exam is easier than mock exams but I didn’t feel it. The most of actual exam questions looked like simple, but in fact they were tricky. Therefore I checked each question at least twice and it took too much time. At the end of mock exams I usually had enough time left to go through questions again and I thought the actual exam would be easier. However, when I finished answering questions after first attempt (except for 4-5 questions as I got right answers at second or third attempt), I had 25 min left. I was able to finish the test 30 seconds before the end of the exam. Either my pen or paper were not comfortable. The paper was slippery and the pen didn’t write on it at the first attempt and these things also disrupted my concentration.

    You will not get your result just after exam. 15-20 minutes after exam I got email regarding my result:
  • Actual Exam – 94%

  • Although my goal was to get score above 95%, I am still satisfied with this result because my exam anxiety could have led to much poorer exam performance. Thanks God! Finally, I achieved my goal after a long hard work.
    After 1.5 day I received email regarding eCertificate. There was a link of “online request form” to request for the printed copy. I sent request and after about 4 weeks printed copy of my certificate arrived.


    Thanks and thoughts.

    1. “OCA: Oracle Certified Associate Java SE 8 Programmer I Study Guide: Exam 1Z0-808” by Jeanne Boyarsky&Scott Selikoff
    My english was not good enough therefore the first important thing for me was the writting style of book. Before buying the book I read some parts of it from “Look inside” in Amazon. I found its writing style simple and straighforward, so decided to buy it. In a short time I got used to the book. The book is very compact, and the reader is not overwhelmed by additional information. Everything is explained in a short and clear way. The book informs you about the topics that are out of scope for the OCA exam, so that you don't need to read them. In this way you can save your time. The best thing about the book was that its predictions about out of scope questions for the exam were true. Indeed, I didn't come across with those questions in actual exam.

    The most confusing topic of the book for me was the Garbage Collection. At first it was hard to answer such questions. I encountered some tough questions regarding GC in coderanch and I couldn't answer them. Therefore I needed to read extra information about GC from other sources. Then I learned the easy way to find right answers to such questions: using pen and paper. But there was only one question regarding GC in actual exam and it was absolutely enough to read only SYBEX.

    The book covers 100% of exam objectives. I encountered only one thing (append() method with three parameters) in actual exam which doesn't exist in the book.
    If you look at Errata page you can see my name as the most reported person. But despite this, my opinions are very positive about this book. Most of these typos are minor and will not cause you problems in answering questions correctly in actual exam. I remember only two important errors that I encountered in Practise Exams and fortunately, they can be fixed (if they are fixed the next readers will not encounter these problems). But it is pity that these errors are still exist and haven’t been fixed yet, although they were reported several months ago. But in general this book is very good and I loved it very much I was able to answer only 3-4 questions in Assessment Test before reading this book, but after reading the book I increased my knowledge a lot. If online material quality is improved a bit (it is impossible to return previous questions in Practise Exam, it is impossible to look at your result after next login, there is no time limit information etc.) this study guide would become much better learning tool for future exam takers.
    Thanks a lot to Jeanne and Scott for this valuable book

    2. Enthuware JA+ V8 for Oracle Certified Associate - Java SE8 Programmer I
    In comparison with other alternative programs I found Enthuware and its questions more interesting and qualitative. According to previous exam takers’ experiences Enthuware questions are very similar with those of actual exam. Now I agree with these opinions too, especially I want to note Last Day Test. I couldn't distinguish some actual exam questions from Last Day Test when I wrote my experiences. I couldn't remember whether I had encountered this question in actual exam or Last Day Test.
    At first the program structure seemed primitive to me but as I started using it I found that almost all opportunities had been created for the convenience of users:
  • simple design which is similar to actual exam window;
  • Availability of going to previous, next or any other question in one step;
  • To bookmark question;
  • there is information about remaining time (in a decreasing format) same as in actual exam. Furthermore, you can see additional time you spent when the given time is over. It would be better time information for each question is shown separately too;
  • you can pause mock exam (Pause Test) and continue whenever you want (Continue Test);
  • you can add note for each question;
  • you can ask questions regarding any test in Enthuware forum. If you don't understand any test after reading explanation you can click "discuss" button and ask your question or read existing discussion. All questions are replied by admin in a short period of time;
  • performance report – your results for each topic are shown in percentages (%) in all tests, thus you can determine your strengths and weaknesses;
  • missed questions – all your incorrect answers are kept in this section. At the end you can look through these questions again to ensure that you understand them;
  • Objective-wise questions – this section contains questions for each topic and after standart test it is recommended to revise the chapters that you do not understand well (they will be shown in performance report) and to do the relevant tests once again;
  • "Most missed questions" section makes it possible to see the questions that are confused by most exam takers;
  • You can take files in “ETSWF_com_enthuware_ets_oca-jp-i_v8” folder home or work and continue your test from where you have stopped.

  • Mostly I was worried about “Which statements are true?” type questions in actual exam because of my english. But I had already learned almost 90% of such questions from Enthuware which I encountered in actual exam.

    I tried to remember the Enthuware questions which are similar to the actual exam questions and I have written some of them below:

    Foundation test:
  • 22 (less similar)
  • 63 (very similar)
  • 78 (less similar)

  • Test 1:
  • 19 (maybe)
  • 33 (similar, than harder)
  • 44 (similar)
  • 60 (similar)

  • Test 2:
  • 26 (very similar)
  • 47 (similar)
  • 68 (very similar)

  • Test 3:
  • 9 (very similar)

  • Test 4:
  • 10 (less similar)
  • 41 (similar)
  • 44 (similar)

  • Test 5:
  • 44 (less similar, but very tough)
  • 51 (similar)
  • 66 (similar)
  • 67 (similar)

  • Test 6:
  • 12 (very similar)
  • 14 (very similar)
  • 19 (less similar, than harder)
  • 28 (less similar)
  • 56 (very similar)
  • 57 (very similar)

  • Last Day Test
  • 13 (similar, than harder)
  • 14 (very similar)
  • 20 (similar, but main method overloading)
  • 24 (very similar)
  • 37 (very similar)
  • 42 (maybe)
  • 44 (less similar)
  • 49 (very similar)
  • 68 (similar)
  • 71 (similar)
  • 72 (similar)

  • I found Enthuware very helpful so I would like to thank Paul and Enthuware team for this excellent app

    3. Coderanch forum
    I discovered Coderanch forum thanks to Mrs Jeanne. She directed me to the forum when I sent her email regarding OCA book. When I got familiar with the forum I understood that using the forum was one of the best decisions I made during certification exam preparation. Indeed, it had great beneficial effect on my studies. Every day I visited forum to read new posts. I read explanation of questions which I hadn't known and took notes if necessary. Before finishing preparation this forum also helped me to have some idea about test center, exam registration process, as well as how to get printed copy of certificate. I bookmarked those questions to read again in case I needed.

    I also posted my questions that I didn’t understand. If the explanations of questions written in study guides or in test banks were insufficent, first I looked for extra information about those questions in the forum. I guessed that someone might have asked the same question before me and indeed in most cases it was so. Most questions in the forum are explained step-by-step and in details, so it helps readers to understand that concept very well.

    In Addition, I want to emphasize "Certification Results" forum. Exam takers’ experiences were very helpful for me. Thanks to all forum users for sharing questions, answers, sharing useful information, their experiences etc. I am especially very thankfull for the time Roel De Nijs took to reply to 98% of my posts



    My brief thoughts regarding actual exam questions:

    • There were no questions about instanceof operator, “dangling” else, enum, inner class;
    • There was a question about Period, but not Duration and ZonedDateTime;
    • There was no question regarding Wrapper constructor, but there was question regarding parseXXX() and valueOf() methods (I will write about it in detail);
    • More questions were asked about arrays compared to other topics (declaration, initialization);
    • There were many questions regarding switch case statements, inner for loops, if conditions;
    • There were a lot of questions regarding this() and super(), too. The important rule to find answers to these questions was: this() and super() have to be only first statements of code block;
    • There was only one question regarding Lambda and I had seen such question neither in SYBEX nor in Enthuware during my exam preparation (I will write about it in detail);
    • There were 3 or 4 questions regarding Time API and all questions were almost easy. 95-99% of these questions were covered in the topics of Dates and Times in SYBEX;
    • There were about 3 questions regarding pass-by-value;
    • There was a question about overloading main method;
    • There were many questions with right answer of “compilation fail”;
    • There were complicated questions about casting;
    • Most important methods of String and StringBuilder were also asked. All of these methods were described in SYBEX book except for append() method with three parameters. Fortunately, I had learned it from Enthuware tests. There were no questions regarding intern(), compareTo(), ensureCapacity(), insert() with four parameters (but insert() with two parameters existed), setLength() methods;
    • I was familiar with all the questions asked about Exception in actual exam. Although during my preparation I came across with some Exception subclasses in Enthuware that were not included in SYBEX book, all Exception questions of actual exam were covered in SYBEX book.

    The question types which I didn’t encounter in SYBEX or Enthuware:
    • The inner for loops form which I saw until actual exam was: Two dimensional array was given, the lengths of the first and second element were used for outer and inner iteration, respectively, for example:But in actual exam instead of two-dimensional array one-dimensional String array was given and String length was used for inner loop iteration, for example:
         Edit: Code snippet was removed
    It was similar but much harder than the example shown above;

    • There was an array question in Grid form. Probably everbody knows the game of Tic-tac-toe. You imagine grid (3x3) as two-dimensional array and you have to find in which index you should draw X to make X winner;

    • There were some questions about import but the answer options of one of them were weird. I had seen no similar questions in SYBEX and Enthuware. (I will write about it in detail).



    Four questions confused me

    1) In two questions I couldn't decide between two answer options.

    The first question was related to Wrapper. The question was like following example:
         Edit: Code snippet was removed
    Everything was clear about parseXXX() methods because they returned primitive value. But I got confused with the valueOf() method, because it returned Reference. I thought it might cause compilation fail if there was no intValue() at the end: Integer.valueOf(args[0]).intValue();
    But then I changed my mind. I thought there was no need to call intValue() because we can initialize Integer.valueOf(args[0]) to primitive type due to unboxing. After exam I immediately checked it and found that I had answered it correctly.

    The second question was regarding Lambda. Generally I had learned Lambda well, I usually answered most of lambda questions correctly in mock exams. And I learned some new facts regarding Lambda from Enthuware which I didn’t know before. The lambda question asked in the actual exam was a bit different and I had never seen such type of question before in SYBEX and Enthuware. ~15-20 minutes after exam you get feedback showing the respective topics of the questions that you answered incorrectly. In my feedback three topics were shown and one of them was about lambda. Since in the actual exam I got only one question about lambda, I understood that was one of my mistakes. That question was similar to the following sample:
         Edit: Code snippet was removed
    When I saw asList() and removeIf() together the first thing that came to my mind was that this code throws UnsupportedOperationException. Because we create “fixed size list” with Arrays.asList() we can’t change the size of this list. But before choosing that option I checked lambda syntax because I had learned from my studies that most of lambda questions were related to syntax. removeIf() method takes parameter in type of Predicate interface and:
    • the parameter type was shown explicitly (String) so it had to be parentheses and ok;
    • there had to be arrow and ok;
    • there had to be semicolon and braces because of return statement and it had to return boolean value and ok.
    After making sure that everything was correct with syntax I chose “throws UnsupportedOperationException” as answer. But I changed my mind when I looked through all questions again at the end. I remembered I read somewhere that the list isn’t considered “fixed size” if we create Arrays.asList() inside new ArrayList(). Therefore I came to conclusion that this code didn’t throw exception and I chose the option “Mushfiq removes”. But after actual exam I tested this code in IDE and saw that there was a tricky point. I checked only line 7 as syntax, but complication fail occured on line 8. The variable declared in parameter list cannot be used outside lambda body.


    2) There were two complex questions with a weird structure:

    The first question was regarding import. Similar as the following:
    There is a project called A. Project A contains B and C packages:
         Edit: Code snippet was removed
    The question is that which imports are required to use ClassC inside ClassB? Choose two valid syntax options (approximately):
         Edit: Options were removed
    Required import is only option C. But I had to choose two options so I chose option D because option D is valid syntax, but is not required. It was weird that there was no information about getName() method. At that moment I remembered Roel`s words (sorry if I remember wrong): “If something doesn't exist in question you shouldn’t guess it”. Therefore I chose option C and D. But I don’t remember that question exactly, I might be wrong.

    The second question was regarding this() and super(). This question was similar to the 44th question of Enthuware Standard Test 5, but it had a very complex structure. The size of question was bigger than that of screen, so you had to use scroll to see the end of question..



    According to the feedback I know that one of my incorrect answers was regarding lambda. The other four incorrect answers are still interesting for me

    At the end I want to especially note that SYBEX book and Enthuware together are excellent study guides and they are absolutely enough to pass the exam with high score. But you should follow the right sequence.

    P.S. The above thoughts are referring to my actual exam questions.

    Edit: Code snippets have been removed as they don't quite meet publishing standards of forum.


    Hope it helps.
         With kind regards,
                Mushfiq Mammadov,
                        from Baku, Azerbaijan
     
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    Hi Mushfiq,

    Congratulations champion! Great achievement Now it's time to relax a bit and have a (well-deserved) (or 2 or 3). And if you want to spoil yourself have a Belgian beer, our beers are the best of the world

    Thanks for sharing your experiences. Other ranchers will definitely benefit! Normally I would give one cow. But the experience you have posted is the most comprehensive I have ever seen, so I'll award you 3 cows and 1 slice of pie!

    Don't forget to add your name to the OcajpWallOfFame!

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    Mushfiq Mammadov wrote:First of all I want to say that I am an economist and I had had two years experiences of working with java when I started preparing for the certification exam.


    I think being an economist definitely helped you in creating such detailed description of your experience with great care for numbers If you would have been an accountant the numbers would have been even more impressive

    Mushfiq Mammadov wrote:I am especially very thankfull for the time Roel De Nijs took to reply to 98% of my posts


    Always nice to hear my replies and answers were helpful during your certification preparation. Thanks for these kind words. Highly appreciated! (Although I'm wondering when and where I missed those 2% of your posts )

    Mushfiq Mammadov wrote:The second question was regarding Lambda.


    This question illustrates that every line in a code snippet is really important Your assumption about using Arrays.asList() inside new ArrayList<>() is spot-on

    Mushfiq Mammadov wrote:The first question was regarding import.


    I agree the format of this question is a little bit weird. But I think the correct answers had to be C (proper import statement of ClassC) and E (valid statement using the fully qualified name of ClassC to invoke a class/static method). But the strange thing is that the latter one is not really an import statement.
    Probably my words you remembered are: "You should never assume something which is not mentioned in the question or in the option". Meaning if a statement uses "a field" you should not assume "a private field", "a final field", "a public field",... when evaluating the statement. If a specific kind of field is intended, the statement will mention it explicitly (e.g. "a final instance field").
     
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    Wow. Thanks for the EXTREMELY detailed analysis of your journey.
     
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    Roel De Nijs wrote:Congratulations champion!
    Thanks for sharing your experiences. Other ranchers will definitely benefit! Normally I would give one cow. But the experience you have posted is the most comprehensive I have ever seen, so I'll award you 3 cows and 1 slice of pie!


    Wow! Thanks for your attention, Roel

    Roel De Nijs wrote:Although I'm wondering when and where I missed those 2% of your posts


    You didn’t reply only this post In that time you were on holiday.

    Roel De Nijs wrote:Probably my words you remembered are: "You should never assume something which is not mentioned in the question or in the option".


    Yess, I mean it

    Roel De Nijs wrote:Don't forget to add your name to the OcajpWallOfFame!


    It has been ready

     
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    Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:Wow. Thanks for the EXTREMELY detailed analysis of your journey.


    You are welcome
     
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    Congrats Mushfiq, glad our book could help you pass the exam!
     
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    Scott Selikoff wrote:Congrats Mushfiq, glad our book could help you pass the exam!


    Thanks for attention, Scott
     
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    Mushfiq Mammadov wrote:You didn’t reply only this post In that time you were on holiday.


    I remember that post, so I definitely checked it when I returned from holiday (or even on holiday). But Jeanne already answered the question and I couldn't make any useful contribution anymore so I didn't post. If I had known, it would get me only 98% instead of full marks, I would have made a silly comment

    Mushfiq Mammadov wrote:Yess, I mean it


    I also like to mention that Oracle has introduced some assumptions about the OCA (and probably OCP) certification exams. These are mentioned on the Exam Topics tab.
     
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    Really impressive (and helpful)!

    Well deserved by the looks of things!
     
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    First of all Congratulation man ! I do understand the feelings and obstacles of people whose native language is not English and who are not good in English. Sometime even I face problems while asking questions in this forum.
    Though you made it just awesome I just wonder how many hours you spent writing such fruitful detailed experience.
     
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    Congratulations, Mushfiq!! and thank you for sharing your experience is such detail.
    We are glad to know that our s/w was helpful in your preparation. We will work on improving the s/w on the lines you've indicated.

    thank you,
    Paul.
     
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    nick woodward wrote:


    Thanks, Nick

    Ganish Patil wrote:


    Thanks, Ganish

    Paul Anilprem wrote:


    Thanks, Paul
     
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    Hi Mushfiq,

    You've mentioned that you took 3 practice exams from SYBEX. I have exactly the same book but the PDF version. However I do not find those 3 exams. Only the assessment test and the exams after each chapter.
    It's possible you misted up the books and those 3 exams are elsewhere ?
    Thank you,
    Victor
     
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    Victor Calin wrote:I have exactly the same book but the PDF version.

    Do you mean Kindle ? because don't find pdf on amazon. Anyway...

    However I do not find those 3 exams. Only the assessment test and the exams after each chapter.


    He is talking about 3 Practice exams which are included in an online material which furnished along with hard copy of this book. Since I had also purchased hard copy so I am not sure whether It comes with Kindle edition Or not.
     
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    Victor Calin wrote:Hi Mushfiq,

    You've mentioned that you took 3 practice exams from SYBEX. I have exactly the same book but the PDF version. However I do not find those 3 exams. Only the assessment test and the exams after each chapter.
    It's possible you misted up the books and those 3 exams are elsewhere ?
    Thank you,
    Victor



    Hi Victor,

    Practice exams is not included in book, it is online material of SYBEX. Please, look at the paragraph "Free Online Learning Environment" on page XXVI, there is information about it.
     
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    Ganesh Patekar wrote:He is talking about 3 Practice exams which are included in an online material which furnished along with hard copy of this book. Since I had also purchased hard copy so I am not sure whether It comes with Kindle edition Or not.


    It does come with the Kindle edition. It's the same mechanism. After going to the sybex test site (the URL is in the book), you get prompted to verify something in the book. Like what is the third work in question 6 in chapter 2. Easier to answer if you access to the book. Which Kindle users do.
     
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    Jeanne Boyarsky wrote:It does come with the Kindle edition. It's the same mechanism. After going to the sybex test site (the URL is in the book), you get prompted to verify something in the book. Like what is the third work in question 6 in chapter 2. Easier to answer if you access to the book. Which Kindle users do.

    Oh! I see. Glad to know that all users get the extra benefits inform of online material.
     
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    As I said before, a lot of people claim the Enthuware tests are supposed to be harder than the real exam, but I think that's a bit misleading.

    The average of the total scores is 13% higher, but after test five I am getting in the 60-65% range, and my first test was 40%, so if I click submit my scores, it shows an average of 53%.  I would get much better than a 53% if I were to likely take the exam again now, but that still doesn't mean that it is easier.  It just means that I got better as I progressed, and my actual score is much better than the average of all the others.  I also noticed that most people don't even take tests 6 and 7.   Test six has a much higher average, so I think if people took that before submitting their scores, the results would show a narrower gap.
     
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    hii Mushfiq


    i am very nervous beacause
    i also given the enuware test;

    my results are
    Foundation Test 60%;
    Test1 64%;


    i an very much nevous what should i Do now ?
    please reply?
     
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