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Jim Yingst
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I'm not sure what to say. I'm torn between "now that's a moose!" and "Paul, you are one sick puppy".


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Joe Guzzardo
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Oh my god, they killed the Moose! Quick, call the sheriff
Jim Yingst
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Joe- I think the second part was supposed to be, "you bastards!!!". But the was a nice touch - it looks a lot like a South Park character, actually.

Now there's an idea for a site theme - "Java Park". See Paul, it would even connect with your Colorado origins.
Ray Marsh
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Well, I was thinking about suggesting that we name our moose. Kind of a mascot sort a deal. But seeing he's now dead and mounted on the wall and one of his eyes is gone ... maybe not.
Deteriorated rather quickly for a freshly mounted moose.
The fly is a nice touch. Hey, maybe we can name the fly! He's still alive and moving! Better keep the Raid.class away from Paul, he's on a rampage!


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Joe Guzzardo
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Paul has been suspiciously absent from this discussion. Do you think maybe he's trying to dispose of the hind quarters of the moose?
Ray Marsh
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A moose rump roast?
Anonymous
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Now thats a real Moose Trophy, it still has me laughing. quite a idea
paul wheaton
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I was going to add cobwebs to the rack, but thought that might be too much.
So now it's a well dusted moose head.
Sometime in the next week I hope to rename "The Big Moose Saloon" to "The Mangy Moose Saloon". Too much?

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Anonymous
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Paul,
It looks smashing just the way it is now.
It actually look at like a Moosehead in a Saloon, thats been there for ages , watching life go one at its petty pace; strangers come and go, friends met, duals happening, Saloon Girls dancing, quick hands at Poker.
And I think of that li'l creature as an industrious bee or rather a wasp. So its quite a nice design, quite an abstract theme, quite apt.
Cowebs and "Mangy" might spoil it.
Jim Yingst
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Personally, I think "The Mangy Moose Saloon" would be cool. Small cobwebs would be OK too. Just my opinion...
Betty Reynolds
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I don't check in to often, but this site has really changed (and I don't just mean the moose). Why isn't this page under meaningless drivel?

I have also been following Tony's career saga and just checked out the latest posting on his job search progress.
By the way Tony, congratulations on your job offers.
I like the new mock exam errata forum.


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Anonymous
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Howdy Reynolds,
You kind of sound familiar.
Frank Carver
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I don't quite like the thought of "mangy moose". It's either blatantly false modesty, or a turn-off before someone even looks here. How about "The Old Moose Saloon", which has connotations of wisdom as well as just decay?
I do think the new image suits a moose in a saloon better. The old one always made me think of those gold-rush saloons which were little more than a tent in the middle of the wilderness. This is a little more old-west-urban. As for the fly, I find it somewhat irritating. I'm sure I'll get to ignore it in time. I suppose it's something to look at while long threads are loading ...


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Ray Marsh
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The "Mangy Moose" would do our dearly departed moose an injustice.
The "Big Moose Saloon" has a ring to it. I think it should stay!
Can we add a fly swatter to the moose head? Maybe one that would swat when you click on it and Frank would be able to try an kill it.
paul wheaton
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Flyswatter? That's some kind of debugging tool isn't it?
Joe Guzzardo
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I have to agree with Ray, Big Moose sounds better than mangy any day of the week. I'd like to see the Moose (maybe we should name him/her, and then name the saloon after it) with both eyes and how about a smile on it? Something to make it a little more likeable character. It took me a long time to warm up to the old moose and this one's even tougher. How about we call her Hilda and call it Hilda's saloon? ....just a thought.
Tony Alicea
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I'm with Frank on:
""The Old Moose Saloon", which has connotations of wisdom as well as just decay? "


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Rich Wardwell
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I like the "Old Moose Saloon" over "Mangy Moose" as well.
Although the new moose is kinda funny the first few times, it's now becoming kind of sad and depressing...
Maybe if you could show the one-eyed moose only in certain places or occassions but use the old one every where else, or only show the one-eyed moose every 1 out of 10 hits or something similar


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Joe Guzzardo
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Here's a thought. How 'bout we change the moose to a buffalo and call it Wild Buffalo Bill's saloon. The we'd have Bill's head mounted on the wall (wearing glasses of course). We could even write some noble and heroic tale about how we managed to track down and subdue the wild buffalo in our quest to civilize the vast frontier of programming. I think the folks at Sun might find that amusing.
Also I have to agree with Rich's comment above. It is a little morbid in my opinion.
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Jim Yingst
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Oh sure Tony, you'd like us to believe that old people have accumulated some wisdom for their trouble.
"Old Moose Saloon" would work for me too, although I also don't really see anything wrong with keeping "Big Moose Saloon".
"Moose Head Saloon" would also work.
I know - let's combine them all: "The Big Mangy Old Moose Head Saloon".
One thing I noticed about the new moose art - it doesn't quite mesh with the other images on the main page, stylistically. If the lines were a bit thicker, and the color were a bit darker, it would look more like an integral part of the site, IMO. Or of course Paul could just redraw all the other images instead.
paul wheaton
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Jim, what makes you think it doesn't match the other artwork?
paul wheaton
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As far as the old moose vs. the new moose, I like the new moose much better than the old moose.
I can understand that the fly might be a bit much. Maybe I should make the in-the-nose delay something like a minute or two?
Ray Marsh
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"The Big Moose Saloon" stays. My $0.02.
Either that or we arm wrestle for the naming rights.
By the way, Paul. I just noticed that the fly flies in one nostril and out the other! Now that's beautiful!
I'm warming up to the one eyed wonder already.
As far as a name for the moose... didn't Dr. Suess have a book about a big hearted moose that let all sorts of animals live in his antlers? What was his name? Too many years back for me to remember.
Joe Guzzardo
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No, the fly is cool. I just don't like the one eye. I think the moose should be at least be just a bit "cuter" in some respect.
But I still prefer my suggestion of the "Buffalo Bill". It wouldn't be hard at all to give our mounted buffalo a resemblance to you know who. We could do a lot with the irony and possible double entendres. People would flock to this site just to take a look at it. Maybe you'd even get mentioned in some main stream publication on the web or elsewhere. It could do wonders for your hit counts .....think about it Paul.
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Jim Yingst
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Paul- Hmmm... I usually just look at the top part of the main www.javaranch.com page, and compared to the cow and the horse pictures, it looked a bit "washed-out" - thinner and lighter lines, and lighter colors. But then I looked again at the remainder of the images on the page, and see that actually it fits with most of them just fine. So just ignore that particular bit of nit-picking.
I think a delay of a couple minutes would be a good idea. That way it's more of a surprise when it happens, and it won't get old as quickly.
Ray Marsh
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I think a nice touch would be a glass of beer with the other eye ball rolling around the bottom of it.
But... that might take the mystery out of it.
Right now I look at our new moose and wonder... hmmmm where could that other eye have gotten off to.
I envision it rolling around on the floor under a round table full of cow pokes playing poker and they keep kicking all over the place and every once in a while Paul picks it up and sticks it back in the moose but eventually it drops out onto the floor again or into some poor saps beer that's sitting at the table near the fireplace, right under the moose...
paul wheaton
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It's good luck to get the eyeball in your beer.
I changed the animation a little. Better?
While I was working on the animation, someone suggested that the fly should go through the eye-hole. So I think the nose is pretty tasteful in comparison.
Michael Finney
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I find the moose disturbing. Thank you for the feeling and experience. I will come look at it often.


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