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Theodore Casser
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Does anyone know the costs and difficulty of the IBM WebSphere exams? My company is starting to look into certification of employees for the jCert level 2 (UML/WebSphere Solution Dveloper) and I'm looking for any information I can get my hands on. (IBM's site, while broad with what is required, has nothing as to anyone else's impressions of the exam, or costs, and I'm waiting on access to Prometric's site.)
Thanks!
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Theodore Jonathan Casser
Sun Certified Programmer for the Java2 Platform


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Rahul Mahindrakar
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Hi,
I checked out the sample tests here . For the websphere test some of the questions asked were about EJB's and not much of websphere was touched upon. However there were some questions with regard to VAJ. check out this. i am also intrested in the exams of websphere and mqseries. Lets wait and see what others have to say.
for IBM websphere certifications check out this page here
[This message has been edited by Rahul Mahindrakar (edited April 10, 2001).]
Theodore Casser
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Well, I've tried the practice exam for 406/408 (IBM WebSphere Application Server, Standard Edition, V3.5), and managed, without studying, to eek out a 56 and a 60 on two successive attempts.
But that doesn't tell me, unfortunately, how hard the 406 exam really is when you sit down to take it. Can anyone give some kind of idea as to the difficulty?
(Also, I'm curious about the 486 exam - the UML exam required for jCert Level 2... anyone take this one and have war stories to tell? )
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Theodore Jonathan Casser
Sun Certified Programmer for the Java2 Platform
Desai Sandeep
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Hi Theodore,
I am in the process of preparing for the Oracle Jcert Certifications.I have taken 4 out of the 5 tests, with OOAD with UML remaining.
I would be shifting my focus to IBM track once I am through with the Oracle Track.
I intend to specialize in Legacy to web conversion projects, where expertise in different application servers might be crucial.Also,I feel MQ-Series Certification from IBM, may help.But information on MQ-Series is difficult to find.I had used MQ-Series to make AS/400 talk to Mainframes, but have no idea how this could be attained in Java.I would request the group to come up with a separate forum for MQ-Series, if possible.
I am finding OOAD with UML, not very interesting especially since I have been spending so much on Java recently.However, if you are able to concentrate hard and focus well on it, I donot think this Test would be a tough nut to crack
Good Luck,
Sandeep Desai
vgdesai@vsnl.com

  1. Sun Certified Java Programmer Scored 93 per cent
  2. Oracle JDeveloper Rel. 3.0 - Develop Database Applications with Java Scored 56 out of 59
  3. IBM Enterprise Connectivity with J2EE Scored 72 per cent
  4. Enterprise Development on the Oracle Internet Platform Scored 44 out of 56

  5. [This message has been edited by Desai Sandeep (edited April 14, 2001).]


<b>Sandeep</b> <br /> <br /><b>Sun Certified Programmer for Java 2 Platform</b><br /> <br /><b>Oracle Certified Solution Developer - JDeveloper</b><br /><b>-- Oracle JDeveloper Rel. 3.0 - Develop Database Applications with Java </b><br /><b>-- Object-Oriented Analysis and Design with UML</b><br /> <br /><b>Oracle Certified Enterprise Developer - Oracle Internet Platform</b><br /><b>-- Enterprise Connectivity with J2EE </b><br /><b>-- Enterprise Development on the Oracle Internet Platform </b>
Rahul Mahindrakar
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Sandeep,

I would request the group to come up with a separate forum for MQ-Series, if possible.

I would like this forum to be for most of the IBM based products which includes MQSeries including the certifications. This forum is relatively new to JavaRanch so we can define what we want from it.
Any more ideas.
Desai Sandeep
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Hi Rahul,
Just a suggestion.Inorder to fasten the learning curve of IBM products, we could come out with posts on HOWTO: series.
For instance, HOWTO: Deploy EJB in IBM Websphere Application Server Ver. 3.5
We could start of with this HOWTO series, initially, strictly to the Test Objectives of the IBM Jcert Tests (WAS and VA4J),and later as the group grows look out for other requirements.
Regards,
Sandeep Desai
vgdesai@bom3.vsnl.net.in

  1. Sun Certified Java Programmer Scored 93 per cent
  2. Oracle JDeveloper Rel. 3.0 - Develop Database Applications with Java Scored 56 out of 59
  3. IBM Enterprise Connectivity with J2EE Scored 72 per cent
  4. Enterprise Development on the Oracle Internet Platform Scored 44 out of 56

  5. [This message has been edited by Desai Sandeep (edited April 24, 2001).]
Rahul Mahindrakar
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Desai,
I think that is a good idea. What we can also do is look at the test objectives and handle each objective in a single thread ex where do i get the resources for the objective. what it means. etc. So the ball is in your court. Lets get started....


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Regds.
Mahindrakar
Desai Sandeep
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Hi Mahindrakar,

Do we have a storing space some where on this site?I have collected a number of documents on IBM WAS and VA4J, but am not very sure from where I had downloaded.It is in PDF's, PPT's Formats.
We could try to get on with this pretty soon.I am busy with the UML test now, but once I am through with it (tentatively by May 25, 2001), I would be able to contribute to make our learning experience successful.
Till then please bear with me.
Regards,
Sandeep Desai
vgdesai@bom3.vsnl.net.in

  1. Sun Certified Java Programmer Scored 93 per cent
  2. Oracle JDeveloper Rel. 3.0 - Develop Database Applications with Java Scored 56 out of 59
  3. IBM Enterprise Connectivity with J2EE Scored 72 per cent
  4. Enterprise Development on the Oracle Internet Platform Scored 44 out of 56

  5. [This message has been edited by Desai Sandeep (edited April 25, 2001).]
Desai Sandeep
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Posts: 1157
Hi Mahindrakar,
Kindly post your thread on Resources for WAS ( http://www.javaranch.com/ubb/Forum46/HTML/000008.html )
in the HOWTO: Find info for IBM WAS TESTS post, for the sake of one-point access.
Regards,
Sandeep Desai
vgdesai@bom3.vsnl.net.in

  1. Sun Certified Java Programmer Scored 93 per cent
  2. Oracle JDeveloper Rel. 3.0 - Develop Database Applications with Java Scored 56 out of 59
  3. IBM Enterprise Connectivity with J2EE Scored 72 per cent
  4. Enterprise Development on the Oracle Internet Platform Scored 44 out of 56

  5. [This message has been edited by Desai Sandeep (edited April 25, 2001).]
deano tomlinson
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Joined: May 03, 2001
Posts: 2
Hi Theodore,
Did you ever find out how much it costs to sit the websphere level 2 exam. are there any recommended study guides that you know of.
Cheers

Originally posted by Theodore Casser:
Does anyone know the costs and difficulty of the IBM WebSphere exams? My company is starting to look into certification of employees for the jCert level 2 (UML/WebSphere Solution Dveloper) and I'm looking for any information I can get my hands on. (IBM's site, while broad with what is required, has nothing as to anyone else's impressions of the exam, or costs, and I'm waiting on access to Prometric's site.)
Thanks!


Sun Certified Programmer for Java 2 Platform
Rahul Mahindrakar
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Joined: Jul 28, 2000
Posts: 1836
Hi ,
Check out this link for recommended study guides here

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Mahindrakar
IBM Application Server Forum Moderator
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Kaliaperumal Elangovan
Greenhorn

Joined: May 01, 2001
Posts: 3
Hi Rahul,
Do you have any mock exam facilities in this site or available in any other site except IBM's site.
Elangovan
Kaliaperumal Elangovan
Greenhorn

Joined: May 01, 2001
Posts: 3
Hi deano ,
what is that level 2 exam ? Is there any levels in WAS Certifications.Can u give details here?
Advans Thanx .
Theodore Casser
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Joined: Mar 14, 2001
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Wish me luck, everyone. I'm scheduled to take the 406 exam on Friday at 10 AM....
I'm crossing my fingers in the meantime. I think I'm prepared decently (we've been doing our own internal intensive study program here at my company) and we'll see how it all bears out in the end.
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Theodore Jonathan Casser
Sun Certified Programmer for the Java2 Platform
Rahul Mahindrakar
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Theodore Casser,
I really do wish the best for you. I hope you clear the test with a high high score.
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Mahindrakar
IBM Application Server Forum Moderator
Consultant - Zensar Technologies.
SCJP2 & SCJEA (Part I)
Tony Chen
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Posts: 286
Originally posted by Theodore Casser:
Does anyone know the costs and difficulty of the IBM WebSphere exams?

Hi Theodore,
Here're the costs for IBM tests:
US$125
Test 406, WebSphere Application Server, Standard Edition, V3.5
Test 483, Enterprise Connectivity (with J2EE)
Test 498, WebSphere Application Server, Advanced Edition, V3.5
US$175
Test 486, Object-Oriented Analysis and Design with UML
Passing scores:
Test 406, 50%
Test 486, 69%
Good luck!


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Tony Chen
SCJP, ICS & ICSD (WebSphere)


SCJP Java 2 - IBM Certified Enterprise Developer - WebSphere V4.0 & V5.0 - IBM Certified System Administrator - WebSphere Network Deployment V6.0 - Canadian Securities Course (CSC) Certification
Tony Chen
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Posts: 286
Originally posted by Desai Sandeep:
I had used MQ-Series to make AS/400 talk to Mainframes, but have no idea how this could be attained in Java.

Hi Desai,
Well, you have two options to program in Java for MQSeries. One is to use Java Bindings which are a bunch of IBM Java APIs for MQSeries; the other choice is, of course, JMS!
BTW, how did you feel about the Test 483, Enterprise Connectivity (with J2EE)? Thanks!

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Tony Chen
SCJP, ICS & ICSD (WebSphere)
Theodore Casser
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I sat for the 406 test today.
It was... harder than I thought it would be. (We had a few problems with the registration - the card we'd used to registered me had been declined - so it didn't help.) But the pre-assessment test was a good guide to what I could expect, and I actually eeked out a 57% on it.
*whew*
Thank G-d that's over.
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Theodore Jonathan Casser
Sun Certified Programmer for the Java2 Platform
IBM Certified Specialist - WebSphere Application Server, Std. Ed, V3.5
Tony Chen
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Posts: 286
Congratulations!
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Tony Chen
SCJP, ICS & ICSD (WebSphere)
Nigel Browne
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Has anyone taken the 486 cert. I wonder if the books recommended as reading are enough to pass. Is the IBM mock test reflective of the real exam. Has anyone found any other mock exams out there.

[This message has been edited by Nigel Browne (edited May 15, 2001).]
Manish Hirapara
Greenhorn

Joined: May 16, 2001
Posts: 1
I have taken the WebSphere Standard Edition Test (406) and the OOAD/UML Test (486) to get the IBM WAS Standard Edition Cert.
I found that the IBM mock tests are very representative of how you will score on the real test. Make sure you take them multiple times and more importantly, understand the concepts behind each question. If you understand the why's and how's of each question and its answers, you'll do well.
For the UML test (486), I found that reading the two recommended books is more than enough to pass, with more of an emphasis on the Larman book.
For the WAS test (406), I found that the best resource to read is the IBM redbook #sg245755(linked below). You can skip all the WebSphere Studio and VisualAge stuff, but make sure you really read the servlets, JSP, and WebSphere chapters. I just skimmed a few of the chapters of the other recommended books as well.
IBM Redbook: http://publib-b.boulder.ibm.com/Redbooks.nsf/RedbookAbstracts/sg245755.html?Open
Regards,
Manish
Huiming Gu
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Joined: May 16, 2001
Posts: 13
Passing score from IBM test Coordinator:
Test 486 ... around 70%
Test 406 ... around 50%
TEst 483 ... around 60%
Test 498 ... around 60%
David Roberts
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Joined: Nov 03, 2000
Posts: 142
I've taken it. The reading material is essential. I would recommend above anything to trust the material. I would:
Take practice exam continously, making sure to understand every question.
Read Distilled.
Read UML and Patterns.
Then read distilled again.
Make sure your getting 90% or above before taking the real exam.
I think this link probably explains my thoughts best. http://www.javaranch.com/ubb/Forum9/HTML/000338.html

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David Roberts - SCJP2,MCP


David Roberts - SCJP2,MCP
bhaveshpatel
Greenhorn

Joined: May 23, 2001
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hi! i m supposewd to appear for the test 498. any idea, which books to refer to! i would appreciate if u can tell me which are the chapters and topics to focus. and if u remember any of the questions in the 498. mine is scheduled this friday!
regards
bhavesh

Originally posted by Huiming Gu:
Passing score from IBM test Coordinator:
Test 486 ... around 70%
Test 406 ... around 50%
TEst 483 ... around 60%
Test 498 ... around 60%

Rahul Mahindrakar
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bhaveshpatel,
Welcome to Javaranch. We follow some rules pertaining to User names. The rules are specified at here
Your User name does not follow these conventions. It is recommended that you immediately register under a name conforming to the conventions.

and if u remember any of the questions in the 498

This is not a site where actual questions are put up or will be allowed to be put up. This is a discussion forum. Moderators and Sheriffs take a serious note when questions are put up and may even inform the required authorities.
Please be careful in the future.
Hope to see you with a new User Name and being a part of a lot of heated discussions.
Thanks.
Bhavesh Patel
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Posts: 3
Hi Coordinator!! i m back to your website with the proper naming convention as you suggested!
I m sorry for that trouble. About Questions, i think, if one wants to prepare for some exam, he can always give his personal mail id, enabled,(which i have) and ask somebdoy to mail him, if not put on this forum!
what do u say!
bhavesh
Theodore Casser
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Originally posted by Bhavesh Patel:

I m sorry for that trouble. About Questions, i think, if one wants to prepare for some exam, he can always give his personal mail id, enabled,(which i have) and ask somebdoy to mail him, if not put on this forum!

The issue, I don't think, is one of posting the questions or not. It's against the agreement that one signs to take the test to share information about specific questions. And posting that information here can get JavaRanch in a lot of trouble with the company whose test it is (in this case, IBM).
For instance, I can tell my coworkers what subjects were tested, and things of that nature, but I can't tell them exact question wording or answers from the exam - it defeats the purpose of having an exam if people can get the answers and pass without really knowing the information.
Just got to be careful, you know.
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Theodore Jonathan Casser
Sun Certified Programmer for the Java2 Platform
IBM Certified Specialist - WebSphere Application Server, Std. Ed, V3.5
bhaveshpatel
Greenhorn

Joined: May 23, 2001
Posts: 3
Right Sir! I get you! But i m having my exam tomorrow. Can u guide me which topics to cover and focus on!!!
Ram Kondawar
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Posts: 42
Hi
The following link shall give all the information required for IBM certifications.This site specifically discusses the objectives, resources for preparations , pre_assessment tests , and the data regarding the fee , registration etc.
http://www-4.ibm.com/software/ad/certify/websphere/v35/adcswsv35.html
Hope this shall be useful for information regarding IBM tests.
As regards to IBM WAS 3.5 standard edition , it does not deal with EJB.The difficulty level of pre assessment exams is similar to that of the actual cert exam.
I recently cleared the standard edition with a score of 83%.
Ram
 
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