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Meng Tan
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Joined: Jan 20, 2001
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I have done the SCJP and IBM UML test and is now considering to take the WAS (std edition) for the second part of the JCert level2 track.
Can somebody advise me on what r the other available exams and which is the better one to study for in terms of market value. Also, is the Jcert solution developer better then the Sun Developer?
Thanks a lot!
Theodore Casser
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Joined: Mar 14, 2001
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The only other Level 2 vendor-supplied test, according to jCert's own site ( is the Oracle JDeveloper test. The rest let you pretty much pick from those if you want to qualify for their level 3 exams.
As for better... I suppose it really depends on what you're working on and trying to show potential employers/clients. Sun's own certifications can't hurt, but having a platform-specific might help more in some cases - if most of your potential clients/employers use WAS, for instance, then I imagine being certified on WAS would be a boon to you.
Theodore Jonathan Casser
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SCJP/SCSNI/SCBCD/SCWCD/SCDJWS/SCMAD/SCEA/MCTS/MCPD... and so many more letters than you can shake a stick at!
Desai Sandeep
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Joined: Apr 02, 2001
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Hi Meng,
I am following the Oracle Jcert track, and have taken 4 out of 5 tests for the Enterprise Developer Title, the only test remaining is the UML test.
For Level 2, I have taken the Oracle JDeveloper 3.0 : Develop Database Applications with Java test.Have completed both the tests for Level 3.
IMHO, Jcert Initiatve is the best way to learn different products from various vendors.I myself plan to shift to IBM Jcert (probably would start with VA4J Certification and then proceed to WAS, still not decided!!), once I earn the Oracle Jcert title.
Also, I firmly believe that the Jcert certifications are aimed at making you more productive from the commercial point of view.
If you consider taking the Sun Architect Test (or the Sun Developer Test), you would have more or less mastered the Reference Implementation of Sun, but would not have spent sufficient time on the products which are in demand in the market.As the market is becoming tool-based, it makes sense to master the product, which is doing well!!
Hence, I would put my money on tools like IBM VA4J, WAS or OAS and Oracle JDeveloper.
Before I decided to take the JCert tests, I was under the impression that once I master the core concepts of Java (by taking the Sun's track!!), it would not take time for me to learn the specific vendor tools.After having spent some time with these tools, I realized that I was wrong!!Now-a-days tools (not only Application servers, even IDE's!!) are becoming very complex, and it takes considerable time to master them.I had experienced this with JDeveloper, and am sure people who have worked with VA4J would also agree that learning curve for any production quality tools is significantly steep.
I would suggest you go for the Jcert Certification and select the vendor, which would help you in your present (or future) jobs.
Please let me know, how you had gone about preparing for the UML test.
Sandeep Desai

  1. Sun Certified Java Programmer Scored 93 per cent
  2. Oracle JDeveloper Rel. 3.0 - Develop Database Applications with Java Scored 56 out of 59
  3. IBM Enterprise Connectivity with J2EE Scored 72 per cent
  4. Enterprise Development on the Oracle Internet Platform Scored 44 out of 56

  5. [This message has been edited by Desai Sandeep (edited April 25, 2001).]
Meng Tan
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Joined: Jan 20, 2001
Posts: 115
Thanks for the advise!
I guess I will stick to Jcert.
My initial concern is that the IBM Certified Solution Developer certification is too specific. The title even includes the edition and version of the software u r cerified in. I was afraid that very soon it may get outdated as newer version is released.
Desai, I use the 2 books recommended by IBM for the UML test.
They r
1. UML Distilled: A Brief Guide to the Standard Object Modeling Language, 2nd Edition (by Martin Fowler)
2. Applying UML and Patterns: An Introduction to Object-Oriented Analysis and Design(Craig Larman)
I read "UML Distilled" twice and "Applying UML and Patterns" once. I must say that the exam questions have a lot of exhibits(sometimes 2 per question) and they r big and wordy. I also found that the questions test u on practical application rather than facts. So be prepared.
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