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What is difference between WAS and WASCE.

Pankaja Shinde
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What is difference between WebSphere Application Server and WebSphere Application Server Community Edition.

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Tim LeMaster
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WAS CE - Is a free app server built on Apache Geronimo.

WAS - Is a commercial offering.
Winsome Bennett
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What version of WAS does WASCE 2.1 mimic?
Jeanne Boyarsky
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Winsome,
Welcome to JavaRanch!

WASCE doesn't mimic WAS. It provides a separate application server. Do you mean what version of WAS is on the same JEE version as WASCE?


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Deepak Pant
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I dont think WAS and WASCE share release cycles. It is a confusing offering from IBM. I dont know why are they doing this. WAS is a heavy beast with downloads in GB's and Geronimo is a nice light weight EJB application server.
Winsome Bennett
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Thanks Jeanne.

Yes, a better way to express my question would be, "what version of WAS is on the same JEE version as WASCE?" I use WASCE 2.1.

I do agree that it would be confusing for the two products to not share release cycles. The phrase "community edition (CE)" in WASCE would imply that it is a free implementation of WAS.

Another issue I have with IBM is that - Why would WASCE be based on Apache Geronimo, why can't it be based on WAS itself?
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Winsome Bennett wrote:Yes, a better way to express my question would be, "what version of WAS is on the same JEE version as WASCE?" I use WASCE 2.1.

This redbook says WASCE supports JEE 1.4 and 5.
EAR version refers to the Java EE (J2EE) version. WASCE v2.1 supports both J2EE 1.4 (1.4) and Java EE 5 (5.0), and in this book you are using Java EE 5.


The first (and only to date) version of WAS supporting JEE 5 is WAS 7.

Winsome Bennett wrote:Another issue I have with IBM is that - Why would WASCE be based on Apache Geronimo, why can't it be based on WAS itself?

Presumably because IBM doesn't want to give away any part of WAS. WASCE has nothing to do with WAS in my mind; it is just WebSphere branding.
Antonio Fornie
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Hello.

I don't understand something about all of this. I know that WAS is far better than WASCE, but is there a WASCE inside a WAS? In other words, is a WAS some kind of WASCE with a lot of plugins, modules and so on or they don't share anything at all?

And by the way, if I develop an app for WAS and I test it on WASCE and it all works fine, should I trust it will work on WAS?

One more question, about the wsadmin tool for WAS, I know there's a similar one for WASCE. Do they share commands, syntaxis and so on?

Thank you very much for your replies! I can say this topic will be very interesting for many people around me, so we're looking forward to read your replies.

antonio


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Deepak Pant
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1. WAS is far better than WASCE...
=> personal opinion ???

2. Is there a WASCE inside a WAS?
=> No

3. Is a WAS some kind of WASCE with a lot of plugins?
=> No

4. if I develop an app for WAS and I test it on WASCE and it all works fine, should I trust it will work on WAS?
=> No guarantees. Good chance that you will have to tweak deployment descriptors and bindings.

5. Do they share commands, syntaxis and so on?
=> Jython syntax is shared, concept is similar but precise attributes are different.
Antonio Fornie
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Thank you very much for your reply.

And about point 1, is not my personal opinion and I really don't think so, neither think otherwise. I just don't know. It's just that anytime I ask about this topic people tell me "WAS is far better than WASCE" but they give me no reason. So to avoid this kind of answer I meant that I GUESS WAS is better than WASCE but what I wanted to know were the reasons why one is better than the other and the inner differences. So thank you for your replies: I was mistaken for so long thinking that WAS was just a WASCE with a few improvements: in fact, as I don't usually like IBM products I supossed they would be improvements of little value. (That's what I think of IBM IDEs: they're Eclipses with plugins of little value in most of the cases : that's my personal opinion)

Good to know. Bye

antonio
 
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