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Tomcat vs COTS in Pro Jakarta Tomcat 5

Michael Moser
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I love Tomcat and use it to test run almost all of my development. But, the problem I have is our customers ALWAYS want some commercial product that almost always takes so much longer to install and configure and never is quite a simple or easy to maintain as their documentation states. I have found Tomcat has always been very straightforward to install and maintain. Mr. Moodie, does your book address pros and cons of using Tomcat vs other commercial products?
Jeroen Wenting
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Tomcat may be good enough from a technical point of view but companies often want the reassurance of a large Name brand as a supplier of mission critical equipment (including software).
It gives them somewhere to point to and lay blame in case things go wrong. If an IT director were to choose some piece of freeware and things blew up he'd be the one blamed for the failure, if he chooses a $10.000 piece of software instead he can point to the supplier of that and have his job saved.

I've seen this in operation many times.


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Michael Moser
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Totally agree. But at the same time I need some ammo to be able to counter that kind of opinion and I was wondering if this book covererd this at all.
Surasak Leenapongpanit
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Originally posted by Jeroen.

Tomcat may be good enough from a technical point of view but companies often want the reassurance of a large Name brand as a supplier of mission critical equipment (including software).
It gives them somewhere to point to and lay blame in case things go wrong. If an IT director were to choose some piece of freeware and things blew up he'd be the one blamed for the failure, if he chooses a $10.000 piece of software instead he can point to the supplier of that and have his job saved.

I've seen this in operation many times.


I concur you. I used to develope applications with many freewares and opensources, when my teams found errors or problems on the application, they almost blame their freewares that they used had some errors.
Matthew Moodie
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Joined: Oct 18, 2002
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Hi,

I agree with all of the above completely. The book doesn't really go into the issue but does mention that many companies do use Tomcat successfully and that there is no reason for them not to (the latest stats I can find have Tomcat at 25% of servlet engines).

There is no doubt that Tomcat is a useful, robust piece of software. I too find Tomcat much more user friendly than many commercial products, which saves a lot of time and heartache.

Matt


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Jeroen Wenting
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You could mention we're at the moment in the process of deploying Tomcat to some 25 customers.
4 of them already have the application running on it, and 4 others have other applications we sold them running on Tomcat.

Apart from some problems with the JSP compiler during development (the notorious memory leak in Jasper in the 4.x versions) which aren't an issue in production where JSPs would not be compiled every 10 minutes there have been no issues reported which are related to Tomcat itself.

The application as delivered at the moment consists of several hundred JSPs and some 150 servlets.
The next version (currently under advanced development) is over twice as large with some 700 JSPs and 500 servlets.
No problems so far except a full build is starting to take enough time to get a cup of tea while waiting for Ant
 
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