getting set up apache/tomcat

i had everything setup on old puter around year 2000. that puter went down so on new puter i got apache2 and tomcat 4.1

i copied all my files. apache only serves one page...a logon page. at first when i tried to logon i got error that MyCookieServlet could not be found. i uncommented the servlet mapper code in web.xml and now instead i get a timeout message. what do you think problem might be?

i remember (vaugly) that in order to integrate tomcat with Apache i had to edit an xml file for apache (and one for tomcat too i think)...could that be the problem?

duh!!! i forgot to start my redirection updater service...im still getting error MyCookieServlet could not be found

im pretty sure its because i have to edit httpd.conf
thanks in advance for any help
[ June 15, 2005: Message edited by: Randall Twede ]

yes i was right...had to add a line to httpd.conf

include tomcat/jakarta-tomcat/conf/tomcat.conf

now, however, when i try to logon, i am getting a message saying the connection was refused

i see...path and filename are not the same as before...which file do i have to include? is it web.xml?
[ June 15, 2005: Message edited by: Randall Twede ]

You run apache to serve just one page? Why not just let Tomcat do it and save yourself the haeadache of maintaining both servers?

i guess just because that is how it was set up before...actually would be best to have apache serve all the static pages. im just trying to get it up again.

i added this to httpd.conf
include Tomcat/Tomcat 4.1/conf/web.xml
but im still getting message saying the connection was refused

from apache error log:
[Wed Jun 15 12:14:07 2005] [error] [client 63.24.5.78] File does not exist: G:/Program Files/Apache/Apache2/htdocs/favicon.ico
[Wed Jun 15 12:14:12 2005] [error] [client 63.24.5.78] File does not exist: G:/Program Files/Apache/Apache2/htdocs/examples, referer: http://javaguy.kicks-ass.org/

examples refers to this folder:
G:\Program Files\Apache\Apache2\Tomcat\Tomcat 4.1\webapps\examples
is where most of the html pages are

from index.html in htdocs folder:
<form action="/examples/servlet/MyCookieServlet" method="get">
New Visitor Name: <input type="text" name="cookievalue"><br>
Return Visitors just <input type="submit" value="Log in"></form>

well at least i found something interesting as a result of this:
http://www.wdvl.com/Authoring/Design/Images/Favicon/

[ June 15, 2005: Message edited by: Randall Twede ]
[ June 15, 2005: Message edited by: Randall Twede ]

hmmm this is interesting...if i click the above link using firefox it shows the logon page. if i click it using IE i get Cannot find server or DNS Error
Internet Explorer

hmmm apache service refuses to start. it is complaining about the include. it says include takes one argument the name of the config file. im trying to include web.xml

include Tomcat/Tomcat 4.1/conf/web.xml

could someone please explain to me how to do this?
this seems even harder than the first time i did it.

[ June 15, 2005: Message edited by: Randall Twede ]
[ June 15, 2005: Message edited by: Randall Twede ]

Originally posted by Bear Bibeault:
You run apache to serve just one page? Why not just let Tomcat do it and save yourself the haeadache of maintaining both servers?

I agree.
Tomcat (and the Java JVM) has come a long way since 2000.
Depending on your app and traffic patterns, it may actually be more efficient to run Tomcat as a standalone than connected to Apache Httpd.
Even if not, the headaches of maintaining both + the connector may not be worth the small gain in performance you will get by serving static files with Httpd.

i was also using PHP plug-in.

and before anyone asks "why do you need PHP?", it is my own personal server on my own personal machine. it is for learning, practicing, and experience. i would still like to create something with PHP someday. i never had more than a few visitors at a time. i am not creating a new app. i do not want to rewrite anything. i just want easy solution to get back online. that is why i chose to enable invoker.

now that i think i have answered all concievable questions, cant someone just help me out here? even a link or the name of a file would help.

[ June 16, 2005: Message edited by: Randall Twede ]
[ June 16, 2005: Message edited by: Randall Twede ]

I used this page last time I had to connect the two:
http://www.johnturner.com/howto/apache-tomcat-howto.html

Also, I don't know if you've seen it while looking but there are quite a few resources here:
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-tomcat/UsefulLinks

thank you...from the url's those both look like promising links

yes, the first site tells me i need a connector dll from jakarta

thanks a bunch

[ June 16, 2005: Message edited by: Randall Twede ]

well it still cant find the servlet but im a lot closer.
had to use an older version of the .dll because i have Apache 2.0.50.0
i tried following john turners instructions they for just a very slightly older version.
tomcat created the mod_jk.conf file ok, and apache found it ok

the web.xml file in the conf folder said






<!-- implements Servlet (or extends HttpServlet),

so i changed
<form action="examples/servlet/MyCookieServlet" method="get">
to
<form action="examples/WEB-INF/classes/servlet/MyCookieServlet" method="get">
but that didnt help
maybe i try doing it the new way and map all my servlets in a web.xml file
probly wont help though

if anyone has suggestions about what is wrong please let me know.
they have deffinately made it much harder than it used to be instead of easier.

here is mod_jk.conf file in case there is some clue here. could it be that i have to change the ServerName from localhost to my domain name? i am first to admit it is mostly gobbledy-gook to me.

########## Auto generated on Thu Jun 16 19:20:22 PDT 2005##########

<IfModule !mod_jk.c>
LoadModule jk_module "G:/Program Files/Apache/Apache2/modules/mod_jk.dll"
</IfModule>

<VirtualHost localhost>
ServerName localhost

#################### localhost:/admin ####################

# Static files
Alias /admin "G:/Program Files/Apache/Apache2/Tomcat/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/../server/webapps/admin"

<Directory "G:/Program Files/Apache/Apache2/Tomcat/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/../server/webapps/admin">
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.jsp
</Directory>

# Deny direct access to WEB-INF and META-INF
#
<Location "/admin/WEB-INF/*">
AllowOverride None
deny from all
</Location>

<Location "/admin/META-INF/*">
AllowOverride None
deny from all
</Location>
#
# Use Directory too. On Windows, Location doesn't work unless case matches
#
<Directory "G:/Program Files/Apache/Apache2/Tomcat/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/../server/webapps/admin/WEB-INF/">
AllowOverride None
deny from all
</Directory>

<Directory "G:/Program Files/Apache/Apache2/Tomcat/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/../server/webapps/admin/META-INF/">
AllowOverride None
deny from all
</Directory>

JkMount /admin/j_security_check ajp13
JkMount /admin/*.do ajp13
JkMount /admin/servlet/* ajp13
JkMount /admin/*.jsp ajp13

#################### localhost:/webdav ####################

# Static files
Alias /webdav "G:/Program Files/Apache/Apache2/Tomcat/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/webdav"

<Directory "G:/Program Files/Apache/Apache2/Tomcat/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/webdav">
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
DirectoryIndex index.jsp index.html index.htm
</Directory>

# Deny direct access to WEB-INF and META-INF
#
<Location "/webdav/WEB-INF/*">
AllowOverride None
deny from all
</Location>

<Location "/webdav/META-INF/*">
AllowOverride None
deny from all
</Location>
#
# Use Directory too. On Windows, Location doesn't work unless case matches
#
<Directory "G:/Program Files/Apache/Apache2/Tomcat/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/webdav/WEB-INF/">
AllowOverride None
deny from all
</Directory>

<Directory "G:/Program Files/Apache/Apache2/Tomcat/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/webdav/META-INF/">
AllowOverride None
deny from all
</Directory>

JkMount /webdav/servlet/* ajp13
JkMount /webdav/*.jsp ajp13

#################### localhost:/examples ####################

# Static files
Alias /examples "G:/Program Files/Apache/Apache2/Tomcat/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/examples"

<Directory "G:/Program Files/Apache/Apache2/Tomcat/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/examples">
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.jsp
</Directory>

# Deny direct access to WEB-INF and META-INF
#
<Location "/examples/WEB-INF/*">
AllowOverride None
deny from all
</Location>

<Location "/examples/META-INF/*">
AllowOverride None
deny from all
</Location>
#
# Use Directory too. On Windows, Location doesn't work unless case matches
#
<Directory "G:/Program Files/Apache/Apache2/Tomcat/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/examples/WEB-INF/">
AllowOverride None
deny from all
</Directory>

<Directory "G:/Program Files/Apache/Apache2/Tomcat/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/examples/META-INF/">
AllowOverride None
deny from all
</Directory>

JkMount /examples/jsp/security/protected/j_security_check ajp13
JkMount /examples/snoop ajp13
JkMount /examples/servlet/* ajp13
JkMount /examples/CompressionTest ajp13
JkMount /examples/*.jsp ajp13
JkMount /examples/servletToJsp ajp13
JkMount /examples/SendMailServlet ajp13

#################### localhost:/tomcat-docs ####################

# Static files
Alias /tomcat-docs "G:/Program Files/Apache/Apache2/Tomcat/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/tomcat-docs"

<Directory "G:/Program Files/Apache/Apache2/Tomcat/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/tomcat-docs">
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.jsp
</Directory>

# Deny direct access to WEB-INF and META-INF
#
<Location "/tomcat-docs/WEB-INF/*">
AllowOverride None
deny from all
</Location>

<Location "/tomcat-docs/META-INF/*">
AllowOverride None
deny from all
</Location>
#
# Use Directory too. On Windows, Location doesn't work unless case matches
#
<Directory "G:/Program Files/Apache/Apache2/Tomcat/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/tomcat-docs/WEB-INF/">
AllowOverride None
deny from all
</Directory>

<Directory "G:/Program Files/Apache/Apache2/Tomcat/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/tomcat-docs/META-INF/">
AllowOverride None
deny from all
</Directory>

JkMount /tomcat-docs/servlet/* ajp13
JkMount /tomcat-docs/*.jsp ajp13

#################### localhost:/manager ####################

# Static files
Alias /manager "G:/Program Files/Apache/Apache2/Tomcat/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/../server/webapps/manager"

<Directory "G:/Program Files/Apache/Apache2/Tomcat/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/../server/webapps/manager">
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
DirectoryIndex index.html index.htm index.jsp
</Directory>

# Deny direct access to WEB-INF and META-INF
#
<Location "/manager/WEB-INF/*">
AllowOverride None
deny from all
</Location>

<Location "/manager/META-INF/*">
AllowOverride None
deny from all
</Location>
#
# Use Directory too. On Windows, Location doesn't work unless case matches
#
<Directory "G:/Program Files/Apache/Apache2/Tomcat/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/../server/webapps/manager/WEB-INF/">
AllowOverride None
deny from all
</Directory>

<Directory "G:/Program Files/Apache/Apache2/Tomcat/Tomcat 4.1/webapps/../server/webapps/manager/META-INF/">
AllowOverride None
deny from all
</Directory>

JkMount /manager/list ajp13
JkMount /manager/deploy ajp13
JkMount /manager/html/* ajp13
JkMount /manager/resources ajp13
JkMount /manager/start ajp13
JkMount /manager/stop ajp13
JkMount /manager/install ajp13
JkMount /manager/servlet/* ajp13
JkMount /manager/*.jsp ajp13
JkMount /manager/roles ajp13
JkMount /manager/remove ajp13
JkMount /manager/sessions ajp13
JkMount /manager/serverinfo ajp13
JkMount /manager/reload ajp13
JkMount /manager/undeploy ajp13
</VirtualHost>

[ June 16, 2005: Message edited by: Randall Twede ]
[ June 16, 2005: Message edited by: Randall Twede ]

maybe i try doing it the new way and map all my servlets in a web.xml file
probly wont help though

Yes, with modern versions of Tomcat, you will need to map your servlets in xml. The invoker is still there but only for backward compatibility.
In order to use it, you would have to uncomment it's entry in the global web.xml file.
If you're considering doing so, read these first:
http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/faq/misc.html#evil
http://faq.javaranch.com/view?InvokerServlet

One tip:
Try hitting your servlets/JSPs with the standalone connector built into Tomcat to make sure your app is running OK before getting too involved with the connector.
Both the standalone HTTP server and the connector can run at the same time. This way, if you can't hit your servlet, you can test by hitting localhost:8080/yourapp/yourservlet and KNOW that the problem is with the connector, not your app.

the reason i said it probly wouldnt work is because the first thing i did when things didnt work was uncomment the invoker

as i suspected, that did no good...just to make sure i did that correctly:

in G:\Program Files\Apache\Apache2\Tomcat\Tomcat 4.1\webapps\examples\WEB-INF\web.xml

<servlet>
<servlet-name>MyCookieServlet</servlet-name>
<servlet-class>MyCookieServlet</servlet-class>
</servlet>

<servlet-mapping>
<servlet-name>MyCookieServlet</servlet-name>
<url-pattern>MyCookieServlet</url-pattern>
</servlet-mapping>

in G:\Program Files\Apache\Apache2\htdocs\index.html

<form action="examples/MyCookieServlet" method="get">

MyCookieServlet.class is in
G:\Program Files\Apache\Apache2\Tomcat\Tomcat 4.1\webapps\examples\WEB-INF\classes

there is no package
[ June 17, 2005: Message edited by: Randall Twede ]

Ok something is wrong with Tomcat i stopped Apache, then i used both browsers and type in http://localhost:8080/examples/JavaGuy.html which is a static page in the examples folder firefox says waiting for localhost IE hangs saying opening page. i open task manager and it says tomcat.exe is PID 488 and uses 20,392K but CPU Time only 0:00:05 and after watching it for several minutes it never once used the CPU

i remember from the instructions from john turner something about what i edited in conf\server.xml was changing port

i try with this url http://localhost:8080/JavaGuy.html also, and this http://localhost:8080/
same thing

and to think some people do this for a living...i would go insane :roll:

[ June 17, 2005: Message edited by: Randall Twede ]

[ June 17, 2005: Message edited by: Randall Twede ]
[ June 17, 2005: Message edited by: Randall Twede ]

This is the order in which I would install/test the components.

Install Java

Install Tomcat

Test Tomcat by typing: http://localhost:8080 into my browser's URL window.

Install my app -> test -> debug -> configure -> test

Install Apache

Test all of the above

Install and configure the connector

Test all of the above

is too late for that (i could uninstall tomcat and apache and start over though). i found this in tomcats documentation:

The most common hiccup is when another web server (or any process for that
matter) has laid claim to port 8080. This is the default HTTP port that
Tomcat attempts to bind to at startup. To change this, open the file:

$CATALINA_HOME/conf/server.xml

...and search for '8080'. Change it to a port that isn't in use, and is
greater than 1024, as ports less than or equal to 1024 require superuser
access to bind to.

Restart Tomcat and you're in business. Be sure that you replace the "8080"
in the URL you're using to access Tomcat. For example, if you change the
port to 1977, you would request the URL http://localhost:1977/.

i think ill try that. i dont know how to find out which ports are not in use though Windows 2000 Pro

ill just try 1977 is most likely not in use
[ June 17, 2005: Message edited by: Randall Twede ]

well that did not help. i guess all i can do is uninstall and start over

thanks for the help and the links

This conversation seems to have drifted to:
http://www.coderanch.com/t/85111/Tomcat/connect-localhost-but-not-domain

Randall,
The conversation will be a lot easier to follow if you keep it in one thread.
This is especially true for people searching the archives later on.

i see your point, but it is really a slightly different topic. here i wanted to connect tomcat and apache. i gave up on that idea for now. in the new thread im trying to solve problems using new tomcat as a standalone. in fact the problem mentioned in new thread title is a problem i didnt have before. but thanks for providing link for anyone searching in the future.
[ June 18, 2005: Message edited by: Randall Twede ]