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market share of wsad/weblogic/jboss dev tool

Jesus Angeles
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hi guys,

im trying to research to the market share of the j2ee dev tools...

anyone knows or knows where i can see such info?

e.g. wsad 40% weblogic 40%, jboss 10%....something like this
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The big IT analyst houses like Gartner might have some numbers. But, they're usually charging for the information...


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Jesus Angeles
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one of my j2ee developer co-worker who is currently using wsad said he thinks the market is: 70% is weblogic server, 30% websphere...and that jboss is not popular for industrial-strength implementations....

he also said that weblogic doesnt have its own ide, so it shows its been long time since he was in weblogic circle.

me being not a j2ee developer have no idea.

but he did mention that WS is more expensive than WL so only big companies would consider WS.

just wanna share. any comments?
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Originally posted by Jesus Angeles:
one of my j2ee developer co-worker who is currently using wsad said he thinks the market is: 70% is weblogic server, 30% websphere...and that jboss is not popular for industrial-strength implementations....

Well, the numbers depend on a lot of things like:

  • How each vendor reports their sold licences. IBM, for example, is known (although "rumoured" would probably be more correct) to count every copy of WebSphere they "sell" even if the customer was only interested in their hardware and got the appserver "for free" on the side and are not using it.
  • Which industry sector is in question (banks and insurance companies are more often "IBM shops" simply because they once bought the mainframes and have defaulted to buying IBM ever since) and in which country.

  • My personal experience has been closer to 90/10 for WebLogic, but that's simply because of the particular clients I've worked for. I know several former and current colleagues who would give the exact opposite numbers, having worked mostly for IBM shops.

    Originally posted by Jesus Angeles:
    he also said that weblogic doesnt have its own ide, so it shows its been long time since he was in weblogic circle.

    Well, some would say BEA still doesn't have an IDE

    Originally posted by Jesus Angeles:
    but he did mention that WS is more expensive than WL so only big companies would consider WS.

    I'm not sure about the pricing, but you have to remember that nobody pays the list price. Well, none of the big companies anyway. For example, if you're buying IBM hardware anyway you're bound to get WebSphere for pretty much no extra price. Then again, if BEA really wants your account they can drop their license costs anywhere between 0-75% just to get their foot in the door.

    In general, I'd say the exact marketshare simply doesn't matter. What matters is which vendor your client has bought from before...
    Jesus Angeles
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    i found this, but it is written nov 2002. http://redmondmag.com/news/print.asp?EditorialsID=5614

    it says "....Gartner indicated in May that BEA Systems was the leader in 2001 with 34 percent of the J2EE application server market�followed by IBM, with 31 percent..."

    a lot surely could have changed in 4 years
    Manny Fu
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    Check this out for the latest information of WL market share.

    http://wldj.sys-con.com/read/89943.htm
     
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