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Head First UML & Patterns

Joshua Scott
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Kathy and Bert,
First of all I would like to say, excellent job on the "Sun Certified Programmer & Developer for Java 2 Study Guide". I read on page 194 of the "Head First EJB" book that there were plans for a book in 2004, "Head First UML & Patterns".
Can you tell us when the projected release of this is?


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Bert Bates
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Hey Joshua,
Thanks for asking! We're just in final planning stages now, and if things proceed as planned HF Patterns should be out in the summer. As you know, lots of things can change, so this isn't absolutely a promise quite yet, but it's a good bet
There's a Servlets book in progress, a PHP book, and a Final Cut book also!
Bert


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Chris Mathews
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Originally posted by Bert Bates:
There's a Servlets book in progress, a PHP book, and a Final Cut book also!

You guys are crazy!
Bert Bates
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Just hungry
Johannes de Jong
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Final Cut
Bert Bates
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J -
Why so blue about Final Cut?
-B
Johannes de Jong
tumbleweed
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B - I don't know what it's about, means I'm confused not blue
You & Kathy & I still need "talk" by the way
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Sheriff

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Head First UML & Patterns
Thank you everybody for the information! Now I can grab it for review before anybody else did.
Bert, do you have ISBN already?


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Frank Malinowski
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I would love to see Head First UML & Patterns. I loved Head First Java and actually read it while I was taking a Java Design Patterns class. All of the Java Design Patterns books that I read throughout last semester were lacking in one way or another. I think a Head First book would be very welcome in this area.
I am looking forward to many many more Head First books!
Keep up the great work!
Frank
Rafael Lee
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Joined: Sep 06, 2003
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Head First UML and Patterns
I wish you can do this first. And also please include code which we can type and run and see in action.
Vishwa Kumba
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Originally posted by Rafael Lee:
Head First UML and Patterns
I wish you can do this first. And also please include code which we can type and run and see in action.

With plenty of Tikibean lounge conversations please.....as in HF EJB
I loved the bean chatting...
Tha'er Zayed
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Joined: Mar 10, 2004
Posts: 20
i cant wait to get this new HF book..i had such a cool experience with HF EJB.. i must say it's one of the best (if not the absolute best) books, i've ever come across in my a decade-and-a-half IT career..
i'd like to be notified when it's out..and i'd appreciate it if some one can email me at tmzayed@dm.gov.ae when that happens..

thanks a lot,
Tha'er..
Joshua Scott
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Joined: Jan 21, 2004
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Better yet, if any sees it Amazon and we can pre-order please let us know.
Hari DP
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Joined: May 13, 2004
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Hi,

Head First EJB is excellent work. When are we getting Head First UML & Patterns.

-Hari
Bert Bates
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We've got a couple of excellent, amazing co-authors who are working on HF Patterns, so we've moved from the planning stages to actually underway. We'll keep you posted as we have information about tech reviewers and the release date.
Ko Ko Naing
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Will it be helpful much for 486 exam?

Because I'm on my way to ICED 5.0

Thanks....


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Nicholas Cheung
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Hi Bert,

How about Head First SCMAD, Head First SCDJWS and Head First SCEA?
I am waiting for your new books of the Head First series.

I think I am much more hungry than you!

Nick


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Bert Bates
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Ok, here's the current scoop...

The servlets book is first - it's coming soon - we're really tired

We have some GREAT co-authors leading the charge on Patterns - it's in progress

PHP has been postponed a bit

Final cut is 'slightly' postponed - coming soon

HF Flash is being worked on by another GREAT co-author - probably will be a little slower

HF Statistics is being considered

HF SCMAD is being considered

SCJWSD is fairly low on the 'possible' list

SCEA is very low on the 'possible' list
Jeroen Wenting
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Joined: Oct 12, 2000
Posts: 5093
who needs PHP anyway?
Better make HF JSP using JSTL (hmm, maybe call THAT HF PHP and subvert some PHP wannabees ).


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Dean Jones
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Joined: Jun 10, 2004
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I hope the HF PHP book is going to be on PHP 5...
Nesan Krish
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Head First UML & Patterns book was promised to be released during summer. I thing the work should be in the final state now. We like to know the latest news of the release of the book. Thank you.
Dean Jones
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Joined: Jun 10, 2004
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Oh, and if you ever think you'd want to make a "Head First Linux" book, I'd love to Co-Author that baby.
Kathy Sierra
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Head First UML and Head First Design Patterns have now been split into two separate books (too much stuff for one!). The Design Patterns book will be at the end of summer, but probably more like early fall. It will DEFINITELY be fall, though--because it's coming out before OOPSLA.

UML is only just getting started--still very early. I think it is supposed to be out before the end of the year, though. We have only a small role on that one, but I'm looking forward to it!

Now about that Linux book... Dean, you better write to me! The person who was supposed to be working on that had to drop out.

kathy.sierra@wickedlysmart.com

cheers,
Kathy
Nesan Krish
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Please clarify that the design pattern book specifically based on SCEA exam or a general one? Than you.
Don Stadler
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Head First UML and Head First Design Patterns have now been split into two separate books (too much stuff for one!). The Design Patterns book will be at the end of summer, but probably more like early fall. It will DEFINITELY be fall, though--because it's coming out before OOPSLA.


Seems like a sound decision all around to me. UML and Design Patterns were always too much for one book. Your decision to go with Design Patterns first is a good one - as there is no shortage of UML books. Oops! There's no shortage of Design Patterns books either. But a real shortage of Design Pattern books you can grok. Which is where HF comes in.

OOPSLA. Is that about Antipatterns & Risks, Kathy?
Anonymous
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Me too fan. Where can we preorder? And where can we order the cool head-first caps and teahshirts?
;-) stw
Chris Harris
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After reading Head First EJB I am looking forward to Head First Design Patterns. I will nice to have a design pattern book that is in English
[ June 22, 2004: Message edited by: Chris Harris ]

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Ko Ko Naing
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Originally posted by Chris Harris:
I will nice to have a design pattern book that is in English


Any other design patterns book that you have read so far not in English?
boyet silverio
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Any other design patterns book that you have read so far not in English?


There are many design patterns books out there written in Greek.

nice holler from our Greek friends.
Chris Harris
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I found with most of the design pattern book that out there that are great as reference books. But there are not many that clearly explain about when and just as important when not to use each pattern.

It is difficult to read most design pattern books from cover to cover. But then again that is not what the books are designed from. I see most of them as catalogue rather than a book.

To be honest I think a book on design pattern MUST be difficult to write as the whole point it that they can be used in so many different situations.

After reading HF EJB I am looking forward to a relaxed and easy to read design pattern book.

Chris
shobhit garg
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Originally posted by Bert Bates:
Ok, here's the current scoop...

The servlets book is first - it's coming soon - we're really tired




hf java was a gr8 experience i m hungry for the servlets book
by when would it be out
keep up the good job

shobhit
white aura
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Joined: Oct 01, 2004
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Yippee! I can't believe you guys are writing design patterns and uml! After reading Head First Java, I felt so empowered with all the new wise cracks I learned. Then I wondered... hmmm... it sure would be nice if they could make a design patterns or uml book. Wow! Both my wishes come true!

hmmm... Now I'm wondering if there will be a PHP book. (I better not push it)
Bert Bates
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the current update is:

patterns is ALMOST DONE !!!

uml is just getting started

php is just getting started

flash is underway

and then a few more surprises are underway
Frederic Kho
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Gee, I love surprises!!!
Barbara Norway
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posted May 16, 2004 10:17 PM ��� �� �� �� �� � � ��
Ok, here's the current scoop...

The servlets book is first - it's coming soon - we're really tired

We have some GREAT co-authors leading the charge on Patterns - it's in progress

PHP has been postponed a bit

Final cut is 'slightly' postponed - coming soon

HF Flash is being worked on by another GREAT co-author - probably will be a little slower

HF Statistics is being considered

HF SCMAD is being considered

SCJWSD is fairly low on the 'possible' list

SCEA is very low on the 'possible' list


HF Statistics!!! Great. I love statistics. Are you still planning on it someday?


farmkitty
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Whata about a book to pass the IBM 141 XML Developer certification?


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Bert Bates
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It looks like we're about to get started on Statistics - again, in the past we've made the mistake of promising end dates too soon. So I can't promise any dates yet, but we ARE excited to do Statistics and we WILL keep you posted.

Sorry - at this point we're not considering any of the IBM certifications, but if you have any compelling statistics about how popular these exams are you might get us to reconsider

- Bert
Barbara Norway
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Statistics!!!
Nicholas Cheung
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Hey Bert, if you would work for Statistics, how about working for Head First Quantitative Finance as well?

Nick
Barbara Norway
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I can see it now....Head First Molecular Biology, Genetics, and Proteomics

---totally just kidding...
 
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