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To Bert Bates:: Regarding SCEA

Bob Mathews
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Hi like million others i m big time fan of you and your books
Just a request I ll be preparing for SCEA after 6 months
Can you come up with something like
Head First
Solution Architect

Or atleaset Head First java Web Services
Peer Reynders
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Topic: Head First UML & Patterns
Originally posted by Bert Bates:
SCJWSD is fairly low on the 'possible' list
SCEA is very low on the 'possible' list


Head First book for SCJA
Originally posted by Bert Bates:
Well you have a point when you talk about complexity... Tim O'Reilly, early on in the evolution of the Head First books said that they are great wherever there is pain associated with a topic

Certainly there is more pain associated with web services than there is with the SCJA exam, but there are a couple of issues with the web services exam:

1 - It's not as popular as the SCJA
2 - We don't like web services very much. We helped Sun in the early planning stages for their course and with the exam objectives - it was a nightmare! Planning that normally takes a couple of weeks, took almost 6 months. Perhaps this set of technologies has started to settle down a bit, but they have always seemed to me to have a kind of amorphous, hard-to-pin-down sort of feeling about them.
3 - It would have to be a bigger than usual HF book - and they're already big - so it's a much bigger risk in that way too.
Anyway, we are always waiting and watching for th right time... but frankly, we are MUCH more excited about SCMAD


Head First Web Services?
Originally posted by Bert Bates:
Ah yes, Marilyn is correct... At this point we have no plans for a Web Services book. So far we don't like Web Services very much, if that changes we'll let evrybody know


In Summary:
  • Despite the apparent traffic on the SCEA forum, the SCEA is actually one of the least popular SUN Java certifications. That means that the potential target audience is fairly small - so small in fact that it isn't worth the relatively sizable effort of creating a Head First Book.
  • The SCDJWS is probably even less popular than the SCEA. Furthermore it may be impossible to fit all the topics into a single volume. Also some of the topics lack a certain cohesiveness that makes the adoption of the "Head First" approach that much harder.


  • I'm sure Bert will correct me if I'm off base.
    Bert Bates
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    Thanks Peer,

    The SCDJWS is probably even less popular than the SCEA. Furthermore it may be impossible to fit all the topics into a single volume. Also some of the topics lack a certain cohesiveness that makes the adoption of the "Head First" approach that much harder.


    This is pretty close to what I'd say - it's not the lack of cohesiveness per-se that bothers us - it's that it leads to a really huge effort. We're not opposed to tackling big topics, but we need to feel that it'll be worth the time it takes.

    In any case, we'll probably never say never - things evolve over time, and any one of these topics could become more appealing at a later date.

    hth,

    Bert


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