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Maybe C# isn't that popular

Thomas Paul
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I was supposed to teach two classes this semester, "Intro to Java" and "Intro to C#". Last semester I had more people in my C# class then I did in my Java class. This semester there is so little interest in C# that it looks like they are going to cancel the class (which is actually OK as two nights a week teaching is too much anyway).


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HS Thomas
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Have you found any reasonable explanation for this lack of interest in C#, Thomas ?
Is it a trend (this year)in your locality ? Sounds like a very clued-up neighbourhood !
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[ September 14, 2003: Message edited by: HS Thomas ]
Kathy Sierra
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Hmmmm.... interesting....
Well, O'Reilly says that C# has not followed the previously-expected trajectory of adoption and interest. In other words, it looks like your experience is NOT just some isolated fluke.
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Really? Fascinating. What trajectory has it followed?
Any info (esp. coming from O'Reilly) would be interesting.
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That's very interesting Thomas. I wonder why.
Starting from the point tha 99% of university computers have M$ installed, you can conclude that they will also have VS.NET preinstalled, making things easier to learn, IMO.
In my university back in my country, the response has been acceptable. They've been teaching C# since october last year. I don't know how it is compared with java though.


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Thomas Paul
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VB has had the normal level of interest. Java has picked up slightly. C# has died. Java is still nowhere like it used to be three years ago. I used to teach to packed classes. Now we don't get half the number of students we used to.
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Well, I am no expert but I would think alot of it is because the hype is gone. MS pushed .NET and C# so hard there for a while to get people interested. Once people actually started using it, they didn't notice anything that special about it. I remember reading somewhere that MS wanted to pull VB programmers over to C#. But since 99% of the VBers out there just do GUI stuff (which is all VB is good for anyway) and since the Windows Forms API works with any .NET language, what is the point in going to C#.
The JAVA people that were supposed to switch probably just laughed and that's why MS introduced J# a bit later. And us JAVA people are still laughing.
I would bet the word got around about C# and that's why a lot of people are disintrested.
Just my opinion though.
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Thomas Paul
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I think a part of it was that MS was pushing the Web Services model hard with .NET and not many companies are ready to move into web services yet.
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And those companies that ARE moving to web services are using J2EE
The reduction of interest in programming classes can also be in part explained by the constant announcements this year about companies laying off IT staff in large numbers and moving development overseas.
That must be causing a lot of people to rethink their study plans and going for more lucrative fields like law and human resources instead.


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But what about the argument that I've heard so many times here that C# made Java better and gave us developers a great tool. Surely that counts for something!
I think all the renaming had something to do with it :
C# , then not C# but J# , .Net , .not, .Net again!
To .Net or not ?
J2EE and Web Services, hey ?
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[ September 17, 2003: Message edited by: HS Thomas ]
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