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Sun Java Instructor Certification

Kathy Sierra
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Joined: Oct 10, 2002
Posts: 1589
Just in case you didn't see it... there was a little thread about the title of Sun Certified Java Instructor at :
Instructor Cert thread
Sun also used to have a similar program for the academic market, but it allowed the teacher to have a lot more flexibility than our *corporate* instructors had.
If you haven't seen Sun's courseware, well, I won't say anything about it in a public forum... but let's just say that if you take the complete OPPOSITE of Head First style, in every possible way, that's what you'll get.
Of course, they had different constraints. For one thing, they were always very concerned about translations, so we weren't even allowed to use contractions. (I'm still wondering what kind of translator is good enough to do the job, but not good enough to know how to cope with a contraction...)
Here's my feeling about contractions: think about films and televion. Whenever a show wants to portray someone as a robot/android/not humsn, the simplest way to do that is just don't have them use contractions. Commander Data didn't use contractions. Heck, even SPOCK didn't use contractions. So, approachable humans use contractions, robots and emotion-free vulcans do not. And that's just how I feel about an editorial process that prohibits the use of contractions!
I understand that the ability to easily localize is an important consideration, but in my opinion, not worth sucking the last ounce of life out of the material.
Perhaps this attitude of mine is why they, um, *chose* to have me be a contractor now and not an employee
Scott Stanlick

Joined: Aug 06, 2002
Posts: 11
Kathy --

Were you a Sun instructor? I teach J2EE courses for a private firm (albeit VERY large) and I recall once auditing a course (maybe it was SL275). Between the lifeless instructor and the dry material, I nearly passed out after one day. What is wrong with the corporate world today? You have to be multicultural friendly, which is okay. You must also be careful about copyright infringement, meaning you can't quote something funny or use a graphic that might actually incite a smile. You must use a facilitator guide (script) so everyone get's the same info - like any two classes are ever the same!!! It's like training has been dumbed down to that of a fry cook at McDonalds. Ooops! Can I say that without getting sued?

lexander Bosco
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Joined: Feb 21, 2005
Posts: 65
hiyaa Kathy.
erm.. i would love to know what it would take me to be a sun java instructor?

thanx .

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Kathy Sierra
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Joined: Oct 10, 2002
Posts: 1589
Howdy -- Wow, this was a VERY old thread. The world has changed since then... Sun used to have hundreds of Java instructors, and now they have only a few that work as *employees*. The rest work for Accenture or other contracting companies like the one owned by Sheriff Michael Ernest.

Scott -- you are SO right! This is a huge problem for Sun's approach to courseware, but it's something a good instructor can overcome. Except a good instructor shouldn't have to suffer with bad courseware.

Anyway, the best place to become a Sun Certified Instructor would be through a contracting agency, like Accenture. But there is almost no new hiring of Java instructors to teach Sun's courses today, so that option is not very likely unless the Java training market gets much stronger again.

I think it's much less important to be teaching Sun's *official* courseware today than it is to simply be offering a really good course. If you can teach a great Java course, the word will get around. But again, there isn't as much Java training happening today, and still a lot of Java instructors from the bubble days willing to fill those slots (at least in the US).

I do think there is an opportunity for someone who can come along and do something really different and effective with Java training. We still sell a lot of introductory Java books, so that tells me that a lot of people are still wanting to learn it. I would be trying to experiment with interesting training courses if I wasn't already too overwhelmed with other work.

I agree. Here's the link:
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