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David O'Meara
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This week, we're delighted to have Cedric Beust and Hani Suleiman helping to answer questions about the new book Next Generation Java Testing.



The promotion starts Tuesday, December 18th 2007 and will end on Friday, December 21st 2007.



We'll be selecting four random posters in this forum to win a free copy of the book provided by the publisher, Addison-Wesley.



Please see the Book Promotion page to ensure your best chances at winning!



Posts in this welcome thread are not eligible for the drawing.
Biju Kumar
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Joined: Apr 10, 2006
Posts: 4
Hi Cedric and Hani,
Welcome to the forum.
One query: Why is the name of the book kept "Next Generation Java Testing"? For me it sounds confusing whether the book will tell me about any testing tool built in Java or does it really tells about testing Java applications? Again, what type of testing does it cover? Does it focus on writing JUnit TCs?

Thanks,
Biju
Cedric Beust
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Joined: Oct 12, 2004
Posts: 46
Hi Biju,

Originally posted by Biju Kumar:
Hi Cedric and Hani,
Welcome to the forum.
One query: Why is the name of the book kept "Next Generation Java Testing"? For me it sounds confusing whether the book will tell me about any testing tool built in Java or does it really tells about testing Java applications? Again, what type of testing does it cover? Does it focus on writing JUnit TCs?

Thanks,
Biju


The name is derived from TestNG, which stands for "Next Generation".

The book illustrates a lot of concepts starting with unit testing but going beyond, and covering topics like functional, performance, multithread, etc... testing.

Please take a look at the table of contents at http://testng.org/doc/book-toc.html and let us know if you have any specific questions on any of these topics!

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Cedric
Raghavan Muthu
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Joined: Apr 20, 2006
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Hello Cedric Beust and Hani Suleiman,

Welcome to JavaRanch. Thanks for being with us.

Hope you will have a nice time here


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Andrew Och
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Joined: Mar 19, 2004
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Dear Cedric and Hani

I have been working as a software developer in China for just under 5 years in two separate and large international companies. Both companies are here to get the "China Price" for research and development and both appear to have very similar problems, i.e. quality.

Both companies see testing, as the answer to their quality problems, but theory and execution seem be miles apart.

Problem 1, Testing is boring. It must be because in my previous company and current, if you ask a tester if they like their job, they say "no, it's boring" and they would rather be developers. In fact my previous company would do a written exam during interview day and those with high scores became developers, those with low scores became testers. In my current company I asked where the tests are located on our Clearcase server and was told there aren't any. Development time pressure meant there was no time to write any. The project I joined is 7 years old :-)

So will this book make testing sound sexy?

While this question may sound flippant, it is not, until testing is seen as sexy and cool and fun (like software development), it will not attract talented people. Since you are both talented, what attracted you to testing?

Problem 2, Confusing plethora of testing extension. I used HttpUnit for testing an Oracle ADF application (now Apache Trinidad) and it failed to deal with JavaScript. HtmlUnit saved me, as did Javaranch :-). It was also a J2EE application, but our team was never given enough time to setup Cactus to test it properly. We had JMeter setup a little to test performance. Cynically I feel that our testing, test plans and test reports were contained in our project to ensure we passed our CMMI assessment.

Does this new framework provide one type of interface for all of this testing (the xml file), thus reducing test extension setup time?

I really hope so.

Andrew
Robert Spielmann
Greenhorn

Joined: Sep 05, 2007
Posts: 5
Hi all,

I posted my questions as a separate thread, "Next Generation Java Testing: what's new?".

Have a nice day,

Cheers
Robert
David O'Meara
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Please ask questions in a separate thread, not this one!
Raghavan Muthu
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Just to add on top of what David has told, "if at all your entry needs to be a part of the lucky draw" .

Is that correct?
David O'Meara
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Joined: Mar 06, 2001
Posts: 13459

We encourage discussions with the authors, but this thread is for saying 'Hi' and is automatically excluded from our random draw.

FYI, etc.
Jeanne Boyarsky
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Welcome Cedric and Hani!

All: I've posted my review in a separate thread. The timing didn't work out for it to be posted to the Bunkhouse before this promo started.


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