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And The Winners Are:

Carl Trusiak
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This weeks winners are:
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Kathy Shkarlet
lesley evensen
raj sekhar
Doug Wang
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Congratulations to our winners
Thank you Dave for an excellant book and great conversation!
Thanks to the good people at Prentice Hall for the books

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Carl Trusiak, SCJP2, SCWCD
Johannes de Jong
tumbleweed
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Joined: Jan 27, 2001
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Congratulations all
Fei Ng
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Joined: Aug 26, 2000
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Congratulations all
raj sekhar
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Joined: Oct 16, 2001
Posts: 117
Thank you very much Carl, Dave, JavaRanch Team and Prentice Hall publications for this gift.I am so happy and excited to win this book.Look forward to read it.
Congratulations to all the winners.
Thanks
Raj
Doug Wang
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Joined: Oct 05, 2001
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Thanks to JavaRanch Team and Prentice Hall publications.
I feel so happy for it's my first time to be a JavaRanch winner here.
Congratulations to Kathy, lesley and raj.

Doug.


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Wilfried LAURENT
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And the forum has re-reached its cruise pace since the winners are known .... (
W.
Junilu Lacar
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Yes W., that seems to be the sad fate of this and the Process forum. On the other hand, it's a good reason to promote books more often here. Do you have any suggestions?
Junilu


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Matts Smith
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Joined: Feb 03, 2001
Posts: 113
The reason why this forum is not popular is because UML use is not as widely spread as java for example. Of all the programmers I know (and I know a lot of them) I'm the only one using UML at work (and that's just a little UML).
any comments?
raj sekhar
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Joined: Oct 16, 2001
Posts: 117
.....and that is true. Not many workshops really are taking steps to have a complete design document using uml in place due to various constraints.I want to use UML as much as possible but it just seems not possible with tighter deadlines and user requirements....any buyers?
Raj
David O'Meara
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Matts and Raj,
Rather than trying to have this conversation here, I've moved it to a new thread.
Changing the topic of a thread half way through the conversation (sometimes called thread hijacking) makes it difficult for others to find and can hinder the previous conversations (although I think this one is over )
Hopefuly the thread will pick up again.
Dave.
 
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