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Jini Singles Bar Pattern??

Kathy Sierra
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Hey Sol, what's up with the complete lack of support from Sun for the Jini Singles Bar Pattern? Must be some internal politics surrounding Jini vs. J2EE. Same old story? I think it's just a crime the way they've been dropping the ball here.
Not that *I* need to know this, of course
And as another female, Solveig, don't you just wish more guys would actually apply these patterns? I had so much more fun with Bert once he became a beta tester for these things...
Note to single guys: You might want to try the half bad boy plus protocol. Trust me on this
I do, however, think you need the anti-patterns supplement. And then maybe a follow-on "Spice up your relationship with refactoring..."
cheers,
Kathy


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Solveig Laura Haugland
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Oh, you know Sun....they come out with something really great like Jini Singles Bar, then the marketing people twist it around as a pattern for picking up chicks rather than a great dating-pool-expansion technique, and the whole thing goes straight to aitch ee double toothpicks.
As for wishing more guys would implement this, well, of course! (Though I must state that Simon is practically perfect in every way.) Interested Listener rocks and of course Unexpected Resource God is something that's nice to have one's boyfriend implement too. Even though it's an excellent way to create the initial connection in a legitimate, encapsulated sort of way.
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Originally posted by Kathy Sierra:
Hey Sol, what's up with the complete lack of support from Sun for the Jini Singles Bar Pattern? Must be some internal politics surrounding Jini vs. J2EE. Same old story? I think it's just a crime the way they've been dropping the ball here.
Not that *I* need to know this, of course
And as another female, Solveig, don't you just wish more guys would actually apply these patterns? I had so much more fun with Bert once he became a beta tester for these things...
Note to single guys: You might want to try the half bad boy plus protocol. Trust me on this
I do, however, think you need the anti-patterns supplement. And then maybe a follow-on "Spice up your relationship with refactoring..."
cheers,
Kathy
Joe Litton
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"Note to single guys: You might want to try the half bad boy plus protocol. Trust me on this"
Not just for single guys! When heading to a party for my sister who just turned 40, my wife and I dressed all in black (I think that's pretty much required for these things). Well I also borrowed my son's black leather jacket, and I was rather surprised at the...ahem...attention from my wife. I am not, as the little girl in that Woody Allen movie phrased it many years back, "into leather". But I may reconsider
Solveig Laura Haugland
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Excellent note, and good goin' on the instinctive implementation! I would say, btw, that an excellent gift to your SO for anyone is to just say, here's $100 (or whatever), take me out and dress me up however you want. We LOVE to do that.
But use HBBPP with care. See note halfway down page 53. But then, perhaps Mr. Vlissides is more of a dark and brooding elegant Italian suit guy.
Solveig
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Originally posted by Joe Litton:
"Note to single guys: You might want to try the half bad boy plus protocol. Trust me on this"
Not just for single guys! When heading to a party for my sister who just turned 40, my wife and I dressed all in black (I think that's pretty much required for these things). Well I also borrowed my son's black leather jacket, and I was rather surprised at the...ahem...attention from my wife. I am not, as the little girl in that Woody Allen movie phrased it many years back, "into leather". But I may reconsider
Theodore Casser
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I think that any application of patterns to such things requires guys to have some understanding of such things. Still... it does once again prove why smart guys are better - we actually have the capability to think things through to that extent...
I'll have to take a look at that Half Bad Boy Plus Protocol again... hmmm...


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Solveig Laura Haugland
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Some of the easiest strategies to implement are Foreign Key and Yes Sir, Yes Sir, Oh Yes Sir. Though of course it requires certain natural conditions. Also consider implementing HBBPP through a Mediator proxy. Which, OK, come to think of it, is just the "Spread the Word (Past Bad Boy)" strategy. Whoops.
Solveig
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Originally posted by Theodore Casser:
I think that any application of patterns to such things requires guys to have some understanding of such things. Still... it does once again prove why smart guys are better - we actually have the capability to think things through to that extent...
I'll have to take a look at that Half Bad Boy Plus Protocol again... hmmm...
Howard Kushner
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Originally posted by Solveig Laura Haugland:
Oh, you know Sun....they come out with something really great like Jini Singles Bar, then the marketing people twist it around as a pattern for picking up chicks rather than a great dating-pool-expansion technique, and the whole thing goes straight to aitch ee double toothpicks.

Hi there Lady Sol,
Here at the JavaRanch we've got a new gizmo (ok - instant gremlin) for #@%$&^* expletive deleted. What the , you might even like it!


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Theodore Casser
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Originally posted by Solveig Laura Haugland:
Excellent note, and good goin' on the instinctive implementation! I would say, btw, that an excellent gift to your SO for anyone is to just say, here's $100 (or whatever), take me out and dress me up however you want. We LOVE to do that.

Oh, I can testify to that one. "Sweetie, I just got paid and don't want to embarrass you when we're out. Mind helping me pick out new clothes?" Works even better when you wave your debit card for emphasis.
(Wow. When would any of us have figured the OOAD forum could turn into a dating advice forum? Maybe we need a sub-forum on a permanent basis...)
Solveig Laura Haugland
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What, is the doubletoothpicks thing out? It's so hard to keep up....Kathy, you should get Skyler to help me keep up on these things too. ;>
Solveig
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And www.cafepress.com/datingpatterns

Originally posted by Howard Kushner:

Hi there Lady Sol,
Here at the JavaRanch we've got a new gizmo (ok - instant gremlin) for #@%$&^* expletive deleted. What the , you might even like it!
Solveig Laura Haugland
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There was that lovely thread on Meaningless Drivel long ago and far away. Actually, I think that thread was what got me started thinking about the whole dating patterns thing anyway.
What do you think, sheriffs? ;> Of course then there might need to be sub sub sub forums: stateful vs stateless sessions, distributed and multithreaded issues.....
Solveig
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gangofone@datingdesignpatterns.com
www.datingdesignpatterns.com
"Look out, OOPSLA! Here comes daddy!" ~ Ken Arnold, coauthor of The Java Programming Language
"Dating Design Patterns"
Available at SoftPro, Nerdbooks, and Powell's Technical Bookstore
And www.cafepress.com/datingpatterns

Originally posted by Theodore Casser:

Oh, I can testify to that one. "Sweetie, I just got paid and don't want to embarrass you when we're out. Mind helping me pick out new clothes?" Works even better when you wave your debit card for emphasis.
(Wow. When would any of us have figured the OOAD forum could turn into a dating advice forum? Maybe we need a sub-forum on a permanent basis...)
Matt R. Hansen
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I need to get this book. I am getting a kick out of reading these posts
Solveig Laura Haugland
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You know, it's funny and, OK, slightly disturbing though in a fun way how well the computing terms map to dating.
Container-managed relationships
Promiscuous mode
Private members
Private and public [dance] classes
Stateful and stateless sessions
Conversational state
it just goes on and on.
Solveig
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~ Ken Arnold, coauthor of "Java Programing Language"
"Dating Design Patterns," for the geek who has everything
At Softpro, Nerdbooks, Powell's [soon], and from
www.cafepress.com/datingpatterns

Originally posted by Matt R. Hansen:
I need to get this book. I am getting a kick out of reading these posts
Theodore Casser
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No... slightly disturbing is my girlfriend (who is as non-techie as they get) telling me over dinner tonight, after my telling her about the book, that she wants to borrow my patterns books to learn what this stuff really is so she can understand DDP if I get it...
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You know, it's funny and, OK, slightly disturbing though in a fun way how well the computing terms Map to dating.

Terms me to dating???


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Solveig Laura Haugland
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Not quite sure what the question is? The computer terms map to dating really well. Or are you just not shocked at all?
Solveig

Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
You know, it's funny and, OK, slightly disturbing though in a fun way how well the computing terms Map to dating.

Terms me to dating???
Solveig Laura Haugland
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That's great! No need for her to read GoF, though, aside from maybe looking at the cover. Should make a nice if weird together time for you. I made kind of a point, when I wrote it, to make it somewhat nontechie understandable. The forces are usually fairly English, for instance. And when I say something in techease I often rephrase it in English. Here's an excerpt from "Interested Listener."
"...she will be perfectly willing to run her own getter methods on herself as requested, at length. Sitting there, talking about herself to a strange man who seems fascinated at whatever she says is not going to be objectionable to most women.
...Implementing Interested Listener means one can avoid triggering most of these methods [like weNeedToTalk and youNeverListen], which is not only more pleasant for all concerned, but means you do not need to expend considerable system resources on cleanup efforts after these volatile methods run and the associated system panics (yours)."
Although, you know, if your girlfriend reading your patterns books is going to bring you closer, well, there are weirder ways to bond. ;>
Solveig
Originally posted by Theodore Casser:
No... slightly disturbing is my girlfriend (who is as non-techie as they get) telling me over dinner tonight, after my telling her about the book, that she wants to borrow my patterns books to learn what this stuff really is so she can understand DDP if I get it...
Theodore Casser
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Well, I'd been thinking more my Larman that's sitting here from when I was studying back in March for 486, but it's all the same in the end as to teaching her the basics.
It's good to know that it's written for non-techies too. I'll have to remember to put a pitch for your book into my online poetry journal to send some of my readers your way (though, admittedly, they buy little enough from my CP stores, so YMMV on that).
Originally posted by Solveig Laura Haugland:
Although, you know, if your girlfriend reading your patterns books is going to bring you closer, well, there are weirder ways to bond. ;>

I can't think of too many more... I've already convinced her to have an open mind about my anime collection... Gah, I'm turning my girlfriend into a geek. F34R!
Ilja Preuss
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Originally posted by Solveig Laura Haugland:
Not quite sure what the question is? The computer terms map to dating really well. Or are you just not shocked at all?

Try to think up a short form of "Mapraputa" and I think you will get it...


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