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Jsp/Servlets debugger

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Hi all,
I'm looking for a jsp/servlet debugger and I saw that JBuilder, Eclipse and Sun One offer debugging facilities in their respective product. Has anyone been using their debugger facilities? Just want to get some feedbacks. Any other debugging tools worth mentionning? I use tomcat with win2k.
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there was some discussion recently:
There is a french eclipse plugin, but they are still working on it to make it more usable. WSAD has a Tomcat debugger. I only have used the websphere debugger, and its slow.
I aggree with Wiliam Brogden in the mentioned discussion. Best debugger is a programmers brain. If you have your business logic in the JavaBeans you can write them. Test them. When they work, you can write the web-presentation layer. I am following this strategy and I do not miss a debugger very much. You can also use log4u package from jarkarta to get debug messages out of your app (much better than System.out.println(). You can also use System.out.println() and a textpad pointed to the current tomcat log file. Log4u is better and its quite easy to set up.
I think in the netbeans book at O'Reilly they describe tomcat debugging with netbeans.
But as I said. I think one does not need very much a debugger if you have a clean separation of business logic and presentation logic.
Problem arise when your beans needs quite complex object graphs from the users http-session.
regards Axel
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