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which is better eclipse or idea

 
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hi

which ide is better eclipse or idea.
earlier i thought eclipse is best , but in our company
everyone is using idea. i knew how to use eclipse ,
now i am learning idea .
can anyone tell me which is better
thanks
[ April 10, 2006: Message edited by: rehans oberoi ]
 
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I may be a bit biased, but I can honestly say that I have never met an enterprise Java software engineer who, having used Eclipse and IntelliJ IDEA as IDEs, chose to work in Eclipse on a day-to-day basis. IDEA has always won out.

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He's a bit biased. I'm forced to use IntelliJ. I prefer Eclipse. IntelliJ used to hold a significant edge when it came to JSP design, but they've sat on their laurels when they should have been adding JSF support and now Eclipse and IntelliJ are about even in that respect.

I do a fair amount of stuff where I'm running complex runtime environments (inter-operating JVMs and/or webapps). It's not nearly as painful to fire up debugging in Eclipse for that kind of work.

Lots of people (not all of them) where I work prefer IntelliJ. That's OK. They don't have the same needs that I do.
 
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I have not yet tried IDEA, but the $499.00 price tag is more than a bit off-putting.

With Eclipse and NetBeans being free I don't expect to try IDEA anytime soon, especially since I am quite happy to use either Eclipse or NetBeans. I was a Visual C++, VB and C# developer for so many years before I turned from the "Dark Side" that anything is better than VisualStudio!

Also the fact that I started programming in the Jurassic when all we had was keypunched 80-column cards. vi and command line are heaven-sent after you've banged your fingertips raw on an IBM-029!
 
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Vi, sweet memories Still using it under windows, mouarf.

About the price, I agree with Linda that it is off-putting.
If I tell my company to buy it for Java development, they are going to ask why Eclipse is not enough. Especially because we've already developped applications with Eclipse.
 
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If I tell my company to buy it for Java development, they are going to ask why Eclipse is not enough. Especially because we've already developped applications with Eclipse.



That is good. Some team in my company purchased JBuilder even though Eclipse is free. One advantage of Jbuilder is that is less memory hnugry.
 
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I believe that Eclipse is a great product and many of the developers here use it. I am too comfortable with Intelli J to change however.
I have used multiple running versions to debug a distributed development environment , and it performed brilliantly. As regards the $500 price tag , I really do think you have to pay for this level of quality and finish.
As regards vi , I use the vi plugin within IntelliJ , it is brilliant ! All the power of the editor with the refactoring capabilities of the tool.
I have a keystroke to turn it off when someone else wants to drive tho !
 
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I use both Eclipse and Intellij IDEA and have done for some time. Intellij IDEA is the clear winner in terms of productivity, which seems to be the single biggest motivator. As for the price tag, it pays for itself in productivity before the cheque has cleared.
 
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I personally love eclipse, and while i havent tried IDEA.... the budget man in me says not to bother.
I'm sure it is a decent IDE, but, like george costanza rightly says: "its like going to a prostitute. why pay, when if i apply myself, maybe i could get it for free?"
i mean really!
 
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Having used slick edit, jbuilder and notepad, Eclipse is my ide. Of course, there are plugins that you can purchase, like EXEDEL and myEclipse. Our team is currently using the team functions to deploy both to local host and to our development server.
 
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There seems to be several people here that have used both Intellij and Eclipse that prefer one or the other, but there are no concrete reasons why listed. I've only used Eclipse and I'm pretty happy with it. It's worked well for the Java applications that I've helped write.

One advantage is that it's free. Can anyone list some advantages / disadvantages for Intellij IDEA so that I might have an idea (no pun intended) of which might suit me better.

- Kevin
 
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- Eclipse : is free, good enough...
Honestly speaking I had used it latest at version 3.0 and 3.0x I guess
At that time it was not always stable. Crashing often. But it was 2 years ago.

- IntelliJ IDEA:
It is very intuitive, I would say.
Somehow I got the feeling that It was developed by somebody who knows the Java language, the syntax, the possible bottlenecks in development; and given his effort for optimizing all these issues. It is the IDE in Java World that might be compared to Visual Studio.


If both were free, I would go for the Intelligent Way
 
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Eclipse and IDEA are both very nice IDEs. I have used Eclipse for sometime now but recently started using a trial version of IDEA. I am really warming up to IDEA, which I find to be very slick, very intuitive feature-wise and has great .. well .. "feel-factor". Though it does seem like both IDEs have the same or atleast equivalent, rich feature set.

The "cons" are that, Eclipse seems incredibly resource heavy and IDEA is incredibly expensive. Sure, IDEA is very heavy too, but except for the initial load time, I have not seen any effects while using it. Eclipse on the otherhand, freezes very very often, even for simple things like copying a block of text or for code completion. This makes it very difficult .. nay frustrating, to use all of its rich features. There's no point in having an autocomplete feature if it takes a full 30 seconds for the 'pop-up' to appear. I have not seen any such delays with IDEA. So given an option, I would use IDEA if someone else paid for it .

Ofcourse, it just may be that I need to tune my Eclipse configuration. And if someone would be kind enough to tell me how to go about that I would very grateful. I'm using the plain, vanilla Eclipse 3.1, no plug-in's and with 2GB of RAM on a P4 processor.
 
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"Siddharta N",

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I have used both Eclipse & IDEA and I agree with Siddhartha's comments.

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