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Jesse Torres
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Is it possible to throw in an else statement in the below CSS conditional statement? If so how? I've tried everything to no avail.

<!--[if IE]>
<style>
div.logo {
margin-left: 10px;
}
</style>
<![endif]-->

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You could do

div.logo {
_margin-left: 10px;
}

Better to make sure you specify a DOC-TYPE on the page to force IE to act in compliance mode. (that is if you have not done that already)

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Eric, could you explain what that does?

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It is an IE hack: you can read about how it works:

http://wellstyled.com/css-underscore-hack.html

Personally I would see if setting the doctype on the page to strict will fix the problem.

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Hey,

I'm personally against css hacks.

First of all I agree with Eric on the doctype.

Then I would make sure that you have:



so you know you are working with "a clean slate".

If this doens't work, you can use JavaScript if this is supported by your clients. With JavaScript you can sniff the browser, then assign a class attribute to the body tag e.g. <body class="ie">

This way your css can look like this:



Now that's more readable than any hack...!

This also gives you a way to really fine-tune your css. Imagine hypothetical something like this:



you get the idea.

This method is promoted by Scott Isaac over at Microsoft Spaces, only they put the class attribute in the html tag, which doesn't validate.

Hope any of this helps...

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Roy
[ July 06, 2006: Message edited by: Roy Ivar Moe ]
 
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Thanks a lot guys for all of your help. Nevertheless, why are some people against CSS hacks?

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As new browsers are released, and new browser versions emerge, how do you know the parsing bug or feature you are relying on will not be removed or modified. How comfortable do you feel about your web page, application being future-proof when you are using a css hack?

I mean, you have lots of people who have based their hacks on features that IE doesn't support, and suddenly IE7.0/8.0/9.0 etc comes along and now IE supports these features (but the rendering bugs haven't been fixed) and will now be able to render the rules that weren't meant for IE.

There is also a readability issue. Did you notice how Eric came with a "piece of css", and then Bear Bibeault didn't understand it. Well, that kinda underlines the point.

These are just my thoughts, though,

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Roy
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Also another thing make sure if you see weird spacin that you do not have extra whitespace (including returns) around tags. IE is bad with this for some reason.

I would try to look at something like this



and do this



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if you require JavaScript anyway, you can use something like the following


taken from
http://archives.hwg.org/hwg-techniques/001501bf9de8$6911a200$6c1dd0d1@jeff
[ July 06, 2006: Message edited by: Yuriy Fuksenko ]
 
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