My turn on the vanity wall I just got 77% on SCJP 1.4. Not as high as I'd like. I handled threads readily enough, but got bushwacked by GC and Collections. I think I got more milage out of careful parsing of code rather than memorization. Be sure to missing braces, static trying to access non-static, and other such idiot's delights. Kathy & Bert - your book was a godsend! Thanks!