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Passed PartII-III with 100%

 
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Finally waiting period is over and I got my result. I got 100%.
Thanks a lot. Everybody in this forum and in SCEA yahoo forum really helped.
Grade: P
Score: 100
Comment: This report shows the total points that could have been awarded in each section and the actual amount of points you were awarded. This information is provided in order to give you feedback on your relative strengths on a section basis. The maximum number of points you could have received is 100, minimum to pass is 70. Class Diagram (44 maximum) .......................... 44 Component Diagram (44 maximum) ...................... 44 Sequence/Colloboration Diagrams (12 maximum) ........ 12
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Congratulations and what a score!
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Great Score. What's your secret.
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Thanks.
Last year Amanda got 100% and she posted her secret. I almost followed her secret.
I didn't change requirements. My diagrams where very clear and small.
2. Class diagram was extention of domain model. Didn't include GUI components or EJB in that.
3. Sequence diagram had 1 diagram for GUI MVC and all other diagram were without GUI interaction.
4. Component diagram had domain + JSP + SWING + EJB ...etc.
5. I added deployment diagram.
6. I also added one diagram named "Reference diagram" to explain my SWING interaction.
My index.html had links to all diagram and detail about assumption. Assumption and requirement were within 5 pages. It was very easily navigable.

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Congratulations! Amazing score.
Did you use packages in your Component Diagram or just use stereotyped components with dendencies between them?
 
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I did use packages in my component diagram. Without packages its difficult to make diagram clear.
 
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Congratulations!
I think that you are the new master. The new 44/44/12 grading proportions are tougher than the old 40/40/20! It's especially amazing that you didn't lose any points on the class diagram. EVERYONE loses points on the class diagram (except maybe you and Amanda).
 
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Could you say something about Part III? Thanks.
 
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Hi Jim
I did forgot to mention 2 assumption in Assignment. So, I covered that in my Part III answer.
PART III is very easy. But I explained all 4 answer in depth. I explaied that with some example scenario to prove that my design can handle some problems.
I did took risk ( Because as per my knowledge nobody used that ) and used Signleton pattern in Component diagram to handle some session handling scenario.
Only advise is think all different scenario to handle problems in production enviornment. Make your diagram clear. And explain yr Part III answer with bean names from your diagram.
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What model tool did you use to generate your diagrams?
 
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I used Rational Rose 2000. And I used "Rose Graph" to generate JPG or GIF. I found link to Rose Graph some where in this forum.
 
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Jignesh, how many classes were in your class diagram? Was it looking similar to Cade's - the ones he is proposing in his book? Was your "Swing Reference diagram" a class diagram?
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My Class diagram was extention of domain model. It had around 20-25 classes. I haven't seen cade's book so, not sure.
Swing reference diagram was class diagram.
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Wow, Great score!
I am working on my part II now, got a question:
Did you have any Interface in your Component Diagram? If so, what kind of notation you are using to present a Interface? Coz, I am trying to draw a circle to represent the interface(as Cade's book did) but seems Rational Rose don't allow you to draw that kind of notation in Component Diagram!!
Any idea?
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I used interface. To display that in diagram, I used component symbol with StereoType.
 
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JIGNESH, Congragulations on a perfect score !!!
You have mentioned that you did not include
EJBs in the class diagram. I was wondering if you could tell the logic behind this. since rational rose lets you design ejbs in the class diagram for code generation.
I am working on part II now.
 
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My logic : I didn't put EJB's in class diagram because i wanted to keep my class diagram simple and clear to understand. And after adding EJB whatever we wanna explain...samething we can do in component diagram.
I gave more importance to domain objects in class diagram. Only in class diagram we can give more idea about how domain objects are related with each other ( generalization, aggregation, multiplicity...).
 
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Congeratulations!! Jignesh
did excellent work indeed. I had cleared my part 1 but still not signed for Part II . can you give me rough idea of Part II exam Like what type of assignment is given and what is required etc. Can I download rational Rose 2000 free from internet?
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did u use classes in your sequence diagram or components?
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Hi
Congdradulations, it is really a great score.
I am currently working on the Assignement, I have some questions about the Assignment.
1. How much details do I have provide in my solutiuon ?
2. I have provied all the assumptions that I have made in the design.
3. Are there any good books for UML and Java, I have been using the book by Craig Larman, and UML distiled , are these books sufficient ?
How about these two books
Developing Enterprise Java Applications with J2EE and UML
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0201738295/qid=1019314998/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/103-6012174-2036616
Enterprise Java with UML
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0471386804/qid=1019314998/sr=1-2/ref=sr_1_2/103-6012174-2036616
Vivek
A bit nervous about the Assignment
 
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Hi
Ration Rose can be downloaded from the site. Its 30 day copy but with changing system clock it works
In my Sequence diagram I didn't use domain classes. In my component diagram i did use domain classes.
I didn't have any good UML book but I read stuff from net.
 
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All diagrams should be readable. Don't try to put every small detail. Otherwise it will be tough to draw the realations with clarity.
Write all your assumption. Don't forget that.
 
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Originally posted by JIGNESH1 SHAH:
All diagrams should be readable. Don't try to put every small detail. Otherwise it will be tough to draw the realations with clarity.
Write all your assumption. Don't forget that.


As soon as you have something to assume... The only assumptions that come to mind after reading the assignment are regarding qualifications of business analyst.
 
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Do I need to specify the methods for the various classes in the class diagrams.
Are the classes in you'r class Diagram selected from the classes in the Sequence Diagram?

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My class diagram was for just domain classes or business model classes. Those classes weren't in Sequence diagram.
 
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Its not required to add method names in classes.
 
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I used Rational Rose 2000. And I used "Rose Graph" to generate JPG or GIF. I found link to Rose Graph some where in this forum.


Hi,
Could you please let me know where did you find "Rose Graph" ?? Is this the same as Web Publisher in Rose or some other addin ??
Thanx in advance,
Anil Kahale
 
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Hi JIGNESH1
I have a few questions for you.
1. Did you have a single component diagram discriving all the components or did you have differnt component diagrams, each one corresponding to a sequence diagram.
2. What did you do about security ? Did you state anyting in your supplied document about security ?
3. I am using the pet store as a reference for working on my assignemnt. Actually my desing corresponds a lot of the desing of pet store.
Vivek
 
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I found RoseGraph link somewhere in Java Ranch. Its not rational rose part. Its separate utility by someone else.
Vivek, I had just one component diagram. And security I mentioned in my assumption and i added note in UML diagram.
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http://www.rationalrose.com/addins/rosegraph.htm
If anyone is interested
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Thanx Jas.
 
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Congeratulations!! Jignesh
can you give me rough idea about the sequence diagram.In each Sequence Diagram,there are two actors,Customer and Travel agent,do they must be placed both in in diagram,or ONLY ONE?If I place only one then it can't express the diff between them;for both,it will very complex.
How do u deal with it? Thanks
 
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JIGNESH1:
How long did you wait after you finished the
Part III test? Thanks.
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My Sequence diagram had only 1 actor. I used "User" as an actor. It can be TravelAgent or Customer. For them Only difference is front-end. So I had Separate diagram for front-end interaction to explaing how MVC will work.
All other Sequence diagram were only for Application Layer interaction.
 
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Unluckily I had to wait for around 2 months to get the result.
 
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Originally posted by JIGNESH1 SHAH:
My Sequence diagram had only 1 actor. I used "User" as an actor. It can be TravelAgent or Customer. For them Only difference is front-end. So I had Separate diagram for front-end interaction to explaing how MVC will work.
All other Sequence diagram were only for Application Layer interaction.


do you mean that you have two separate diagrams to show the user interaction with presentation tier, one is for Web client, one is for standard Java App used by agent.
how detail is your sequence diagram, do you show every possible view? such as JSP etc.
thanks & regards
 
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Great Score. Well done
 
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JIGNESH1:
Did you list out the assumptions categorically i.e. by use case?
Also did you provide explanations for all your diagrams?
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1. My assumptions weren't based on category.
2. I didn't put explaination for my diagram.
 
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Congeratulations!! Jignesh
You don't put EJB on your class diagram. However, do you show Data Access Object and database object on your class diagram ? And do you show the design patterns classes as well, similar to those class diagrams in the book "Core J2EE patterns" ?
Thanks for your kindly reply
 
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