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SCBCD before SCEA

 
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I'm considering taking SCEA after I finish my SCWCD exam. Is it worth considering SCBCD before this and will it help my learning of SCEA?

I have not used EJB before. Hibernate I have used in the past projects I've worked on, but I'm considering going through the SCBCD to prepare myself for the SCEA. Do you think this is wise or just a waste of time?
 
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I think it's valuable. Although I didn't take SCEA yet (actually I'm finishing my studies for SCBCD 5), my friend said me that SCEA exames has a lot of EJB questions.

Furthermore, EJB 3 is not only JPA. It has interesting stuffs, such as: JMS, Transaction, Security Management and of course, the most popular, session beans.

In my opinion, if you wanna be a Java Architect, you should have acknowledge about EJB3 as well.
 
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In my opinion, SCBCD isn't completely required and needed for SCEA. It is good to have this certificate, but I can't say that there were a lot of EJB3 questions on the exam which required really a deep knowledge of this technology.
 
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But would you think that someone with no EJB knowledge at all would struggle?
 
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IMHO just understanding the basics of EJB technology is enough. Try to look through EJB in Action or Mastering EJB books.
 
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I agree that you do not need to be a EJB3 Master. The Basic is enough, however I think it is important have a good EJB3 acknowledge to your future (not about certification itself). If you intend to be an Architect, a good EJB/Distributed acknowledge is necessary (IMHO).

Also, pay attention about JSF questions. If you do not work with that, take some time to study JSF.
 
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Oh no. JSF! I've used JSF on a few projects in the past and I don't really like it. Didn't realise it was part of SCEA.

Thanks for everybody's opinion. Mine has changed I think I will do SCBCD. At least start to work on it and see how far I go. It's just unfortunate that there doesn't seem to be much work with EJB where I'm going (Sydney). Hibernate seems to be the favorite.
 
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I think EJB3 has so much that's new, I think getting a good background in EJBs is a great way to really lead yourself into SCEA. Overkill? Yeah, probably, but it can't hurt.

SCEA is the jewel in the crown. Leaving it to last isn't a completely bad idea.

-Cameron McKenzie
 
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IMHO, are you seeking to be a Java EE-architect without knowing EJB? You should definitely know EJB and acquiring that knowledge by studying for SCBCD is well-invested time.

How else would you know IRL when to use EJB or not to use EJB, it's strengths and weaknesses?
 
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I think a knowledge in web services is as well preferred.

Regards,
 
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