Originally posted by Jason Menard:
How insightful.
"Thanks to Indian media who has over the period of time swiped out intellectual taste from mass Indian population." - Chetan Parekh
Originally posted by Daniel Almond:
come on jason, i know you are proud of being in the air force(i am assuming) and it is noble and everything but even you have to admit that it is quite a bit different than the infantry.
but apart from the 3-4%that are pilots or combat controller/pararescue people most are not in the country that the war is going on in. yeah, having a kid in the air force or navy wouldn't be bad because there is almost no risk apart from accidents.
Originally posted by Daniel Almond:
ok, so to clarify my question before since i think you took the wrong context. would you be happy to see that your son/self/brother was going to join the infantry and be on the very very front line with the maximum risk of using a wheelchair and colostomy bag for the rest of his life b/c part of his body was blown apart by an RPG b/c some of the iraqis didn't want us there in the first place?
i don't really know what ravish is trying to say? you got any idea jason?
Originally posted by Daniel Almond:
and what if all that sacrifice was for nothing b/c america will eventually tire of receiving casualties and paying for the reconstruction and support of the iraqi economy at the expense of socila programs here. i have a feeling all the troops might come home before the job is done. even if bush does get reeelected he will still not have enough time to finish it.
Originally posted by Daniel Almond:
since you don't find the idea of injury to your loved ones a pleasant thought though, you should really consider voting dem in the next election.
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Originally posted by Daniel Almond:
along with some indian troops to keep the thing multinational. the casualties all came on a raid that went bad because of some bad intelligence. but not i believe, constructed intelligence.
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
I wish I had known that stat before I found myself, a lowly computer geek, carrying an M-16 and a 9mm on the ground in Bosnia, attached to an army unit. I couldn't tell you the number of times I had an army guy express surprise to see USAF people there as there were no planes anywhere nearby ("yeah, no shit Sherlock").
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Originally posted by Daniel Almond:
but, maybe you can, you are after all, canonized.
"Thanks to Indian media who has over the period of time swiped out intellectual taste from mass Indian population." - Chetan Parekh
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
Very rarely.
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
How does India manage to creep into just about every single thread in this forum?
[ July 27, 2003: Message edited by: Jason Menard ]
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Originally posted by Daniel Almond:
ok ok, you can say that i'm whining if you want but i am just trying to generate concern over the fact that some of mt friends have a chance of dying in the coming months. really the name calling was a little uncalled for. remember that band of brothers is a MOVIE. there is reason that government doesn't let out pictures of american dead and that is because war is a gruesome thing and the people who end up in bits and pieces leave crying family members at home. no one would have the stomach to send their fellow americans to die if they really saw what was happening to them. i know i couldn't make that order. and if that doesn't make a person a team player then i really don't see who would want to play on the team that included people who would send them to die anyway. and come on, no one can serioously say say that someone who invented kevlar or fixed the air conditioners in the base has as much of a stake in what happens in the war as the infantryman on the ground.
as for clinton i really don't remember 160,000 troops being forward deployed to one area while he was in office so i'll stick to my belief that he was a bit more peaceful than the current pres.
everyone has to understand that most people in the army really would rather be at home than be deployed. this fact is hidden by the PR campaign and that soldiers really can't speak out at all.
i am sorry if you took the flag on the car thing personally, wasn't talking to anyone in particular. if you would like to continue to talk please give yourself some cooldown time after watching war MOVIES. however if you really like them my fav is Hamburger Hill....
and come on, no one can serioously say say that someone who invented kevlar or fixed the air conditioners in the base has as much of a stake in what happens in the war as the infantryman on the ground."
Originally posted by Daniel Almond:
still, if you like war that much the recruiter's office is open with no wait...
since nobody has done that yet i think it is safe to assume that there isn't any real support for the war at all, just a bunch of people with opinions who let others do their fighting for them...
Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:
Does ANYONE has any idea what jason is trying to say? Please cleae me
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Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
Remarque's "Three Comrades" is my mother's favorite book!
Not everyone helps to fight by actually being in the military. But the premise is screwed up in the first place. Your premise seems to be that only those in the front lines can determine whether we should fight or not. But that isn't the way things work or should work. The military is controlled by the civilian authority. That is why we are a democracy and not a military dictatorship.Originally posted by Daniel Almond:
you are either helping fight, or sending others to do your dirty work for you. i wouldn't send people to do something i wouldn't do myself, so i don't support this war.
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Originally posted by Daniel Almond:
aren't there any other people on this website who like peace?
Originally posted by Daniel Almond:
cool with me brother.
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Originally posted by Sriraj Rajaram:
"Thanks to Indian media who has over the period of time swiped out intellectual taste from mass Indian population." - Chetan Parekh
Originally posted by Jim Yingst:
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Originally posted by Daniel Almond:
i really don't recall anyone shooting rpg's and suicide bombing police officers who were sent to a foreign country
Originally posted by Daniel Almond:
taking care of US problems.
their enemies are well-defined by the laws that are in place when they sign up and they can quit their job anytime they don't feel like enforcing the law anymore if new ones are enacted that they don't agree with.
people who have actually threatened the US, like north korea, would see that they weren't going to be busy doing something else for the next 10 years which gives them plenty of bargaining power.
Originally posted by Daniel Almond:
i am having a good day though as the gay bishop has been approved. its a real victory for progressively thinking people everywhere.
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Originally posted by Daniel Almond:
i guess i just care more about the soldiers than you do.
No healthcare? The US has the best healthcare system in the world. What do you mean no money for universities? I don't see any of them closing. You can graduate from the NY state college system (which features some of the best colleges in the country) for less than $20,000 total. It's true that the economy is not good right now but it isn't the first time and it won't be the last time. (The problem with being young is that the young have no memory of what life was like in the country 10 years ago. They think that prior to this downturn it was nothing but good times in the USA.)Originally posted by Daniel Almond:
ok, i would like to define a US problem as one that affects people in the US, drugs(hence the police in mexico and cuba), crummy economy, no healthcare, no money for universities.
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