Commercial SCWCD preparation tool

[Chintan Rajyaguru]

Hi All,
I found a commercial SCWCD preparation tool. http://www.whizlabs.com/products/scwcd/scwcd.html
They have not launched it yet but http://www.whizlabs.com/products/scwcd/buy.html
page says a registered version will be available soon.
-Chintan

[Rishi Singh]

Dear Chintan,
thanks a lot for the aforesaid information,even I am preparing for the exam,do you have any other links or any other such certification software...which books,materials,tutorials r u using...
thanks
Rishi

[Chintan Rajyaguru]

Hi Rishi,
I am trying to put together all the learning resources and post'em on Java ranch by the end of this week. My schedule is busy these days. In case I fail to do this, I will send you an e mail with the details that I have.
Regards
Chintan

[Sai Srini]

Hi Friends,
I am new to this discussion group and I feel great to see people helping each other without any barriers. I would like to congratulate Ken and Carl for their endless efforts and for putting such a nice material for the group.
Hi chintan, even I am interested i taking the test so could you please send me the material to my email id please.. Its [e-mail] .
Thanks in advance...Sai

[Chintan Rajyaguru]

Hi Rishi and Sai,
I posted a topic with title "Compilation of SCWCD resources". Let me know if this does not answer your question. Like you guys I am also preparing for the test (everyday about 1 hour while commuting in train). I am not a real experienced Servlet and JSP programmer. My study strategy is to go through specs. Whenever I encounter something that I do not understand (security for example), I go to the internet and find a good article or write some test code to understand the topic better. Let me know if you have any comments and/or suggestions.
Regards
Chintan

[Chintan Rajyaguru]

Oh! forgot to mention. Welcome Sai.
Regards
Chintan

[Sai Srini]

Hi Chintan,
I have gone thru ur message and it looks good to get everything at the same place. Thank you so much for ur helping hand. I havent started yet and to be clear, do we need to install Tomcat 4.0 or is jswdk sufficient. Tomcat is a Servlet engine right..please confirm..Chintan can u tell me where to start from as I dont have experience in Servlets and JSP..
Thanks and Regards,
Sai

[Chintan Rajyaguru]

Hi Sai,
"...do we need to install Tomcat 4.0 or is jswdk sufficient...". Yes and NO. If you want to be able to write servlets and JSPs, you do have to download and install Tomcat 4.0. If you are just interested in learning the theory behind Servlets and JSPs and then take the test (not a good idea) then you do not need tomcat 4.0. Like you need to have JDK in order to write Java programs, you need Tomcat to write servlets and JSPs.
"...Tomcat is a Servlet engine right..."
Yes. You need Tomcat 4.0 because it is the OFFICIAL implementation of Servlet and JSP specifications and it is a container for Servlet version 2.3 and JSP version 1.2 (latest versions, that will be tested in the test).
"...Chintan can u tell me where to start from..."
Your best bet would be to install download and Tomcat 4.0. Here is the brief explanation of how to do it.
[1] download tomcat 4.0 and install it by double clicking the exe file (I think now it is an exe file as opposed to older versions that came in zip file)
[2] Have JAVA_HOME variable point to your JDK installation (Example C:\jdk1.3)
[3] Have TOMCAT_HOME point to Tomcat installation (Example C:\tomcat4.0b) (b stand for beta. Tomcat 4.0 is in beta stage because servlet 2.3 and JSP 1.2 are not finalized yet)
[4] Check installation instructions in doc folder to make sure that you did not forget anything
[5] Write your first servlet and put it in TOMCAT_HOME\webapps\examples\WEB-INF\classes where TOMCAT_HOME is the dir where you installed tomcat.
[6] Start tomcat (from start menu in case of tomcat 4.0)
[7] access the servlet by typing http://localhost:8080/examples/servlet/YourServletName
Above explanation is at high level. Let me know if you run into any specific problem. You might want to consider learning servlet from http://javaboutique.internet.com/tutorials/server_side.html
and start from part 1. Note that this tutorial talks about installing JSWDK, which probably does not exist today because Tomcat is now official Servlet and JSP engine.
Hope this helps.
Chintan

[Madhav Lakkapragada]

Did anyone get this trial version to run?
I downloaded it... http://www.whizlabs.com/products/scwcd/try.html
but can't get it to run and lazy enough not to
bother the Whiz guys...
Just curious to know if I need to set any variables?
- satya

[Mayank Dalal]

Dear Madhav,
No even i didn't face any problem in the trial version. It looks great.
Desparately waiting for the main version to come.
Just make sure you have JRE1.2 or higher on your machine. O/w its a single click installation.
All the best to all.
mayank

[Chintan Rajyaguru]

No problem in downloading and installing the trial version. Make sure that you downloaded it right.

[Tony Alicea]

No Problem Here either...

[Velmurugan Periasamy]

I had no problem installing the trial version. I'm interested in buying the real version when it comes out.
------------------
Velmurugan Periasamy
Sun Certified Java Programmer
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Study notes for Sun Java Certification
http://www.geocities.com/velmurugan_p/

[Tony Alicea]

Doesn't look too bad but they have at least one error in the question that states that this won't compile:
<% int count=5; %>
<% for (int i=0; i<10; i++) { out.println("The counter is :"+count); } %>
I don't want to speculate about the seriousness of their mistake. The "correct answer" states that the only way to do 'declarations' in JSPs is with the
<%! %>
construct.
Well that's incomplete.
The scriptlet declaration is just as fine defining a local variable of the _jspService().
No one said in the question that the variable count had to be an instance variable.
If the question had instead <% int count; %>, then there would be a compilation error because the local variable had not been initialized.
This is not negative criticism but constructive instead.

[Tony Alicea]

BTW, another thing I noticed about this demo test is that it teases one well... to buy the real thing.
But only if the price is less than or equal to $35 US, I will buy. (They haven't set a price yet so...)

[Chintan Rajyaguru]

Tony,
You are right about both the things. There is no reason why the code should not compile. Did you consider sending your constructive comment to them? You might get complementary copy of the software as a free gift!!!
About the price: They might keep it higher thinking that they are the first to introduce the preparation tool. Or, they might keep the price down to attract more people.

[Tony Alicea]

Thanks, Chintan. Good idea. I'll let them know right now.
BRB ( [I'll] Be Right Back),
Tony

[Tony Alicea]

OK! Done!

[Madhav Lakkapragada]

man!!!
looks like I am discriminated...
will try a download again...
- satya

[Madhav Lakkapragada]

RATS!!!
No luck....

Can't launch executable.
Could not create Jav VM.
LaunchAnywhere Error
   < OK >

[Chintan Rajyaguru]

Hi Madhav,
It is really surprising why you cannot get it to install. Here are the system requirements from their website
System requirements:
Windows 95/98/2000/ME/NT (Workstation/Server)
JRE 1.2 or higher
64 MB RAM
Do you have JRE 1.2 or higher? If yes, check your JDK installation and make sure that it is working (this will indirectly make sure that JRE is working). If everything is fine, I would go to Sun website and download and install JRE seperately and then try download and install trial version.
When you tried for the secodn time, did you download the file again or just tried installing the old file again? If everything fails and if you are in India try calling them or send them an e mail. You may want to tell them about the discussion going on at Javaranch (this will make them work on your problem faster).
I (may be all of us) would be interested in knowing the end result.
Good luck

[Madhav Lakkapragada]

yup, jdk works (atleast javac and java, if thats proof enough!).
when I said i downloaded it again, i mean i downloaded it again
literally... ..maybe I wasn't clear enough!
i am trying to download again (not just re-installing)...
and i am lazy enough....so not emailing them for now atleast.
thanks for your help.
- satya

[Chintan Rajyaguru]

Let me throw another idea. Did you make sure that you have enough privileges to install something on your machine?
Your problem seems to be related with the machine and/or configuration and not with the software. The reason I say this is because I took your error message, went to my installation directory and did a search of each word (in error message) in all the files in the installation directpory. The search results did not give me anything concrete.
This is all I can say. Good luck again
Chintan

[Madhav Lakkapragada]

Let me throw another idea. Did you make sure that you have enough privileges to install something on your machine?
Boy, thats something....

Your problem seems to be related with the machine and/or configuration and not with the software.
I agree with you on this....

The reason I say this is because I took your error message, went to my installation directory and did a search of each word (in error message) in all the files in the installation directpory. The search results did not give me anything concrete.
You don't get anything in your search because, the guy
who wrote the software, din't really know what to put
in the error message. If I were capable of creating
Java VM, it would be a whole different ball-game that
I will be playing......
Anyways, take it easy, I will pass on this Trial version...
Thanks, for the efforts, though.
Appreciate your help.
- satya