Shift operators !

[Shafkat Talli]

I dont get shift operators, plz help,
example 1
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8 >> 1
binary representation:
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0000 1000
after bit shift
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0000 0100
Comment: This is ok !

example 2
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0x80000000 >> 4

binary representation
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1000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
1111 1000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 <--- what happened here ?
how is this possible, why did we save the sign bit in the left end in example 2, if u look at tha example above one didnt save the first bit(2^3) when inserting a new bit into (2^2).
Hope u understand my question. I really dont understand this, these examples are from Kathy and Bert book

[venu gopal]

Hi shafkat,
The left most bit is always sign bit. If it is 0 the number is positive and if it is 1 the number is negative.
I will take 8 first
The binary represention is
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 1000
Here sign bit is 0
I will take 0x80000000 i.e -2147483648
The binary represention is
1000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
Here sign bit is 1.
Let us discuss about your doubts.
example 1
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8 >> 1
binary representation:
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0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 1000 int is 32 bits long
after bit shift
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0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0100 Shifted by 1 bit
I know it's clear to you

example 2
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0x80000000 >> 4

binary representation
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1000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000
1111 1000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 <--- what happened here ?
Here we shifted 4 bits to right. The sign bit is 1. In right shifting left bits will be filled by sign bits.( Here 1 ).
If you perform right shift on 4
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 1000
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 <--- what happened here ?
Here we shifted 4 bits to right. The sign bit is 0. In right shifting left bits will be filled by sign bits.( Here 0 ).
The result is
0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 0000 ----> Zero

Hope you understand???
Thanks,
Venu Gopal.

[Shafkat Talli]

Now i get it, its da sign bit one follows, not the bit one stand on, thanx Venu, u eased my life now )))))))))) Ur da man !

[Greg Neef]

if you don't want the sign bit propagated but instead want 0 to fill on the left use the >>> operator

[Priyanka Chopda]

wanna brush up my memory...
How do you convert hex to decimal (0x80000000 into -2147483648??)
How to convert octal to decimal and vice-versa?
Any good links?
Thanks
-PC