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What I see at my job, is that the H1B folks are extremely good at what they do. They come in hitting the floor running. Meanwhile, I sit and struggle with basic JSP's and UML.
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Originally posted by Vikrama Sanjeeva:
Where a Computer Engineer & the man who has lots of certifications like SCJP,SCJD,UML,XML,OCPS,SCWCD stands in Market.??
I mean a Computer Engineer having 4 yrs. studies with core computer courses like Automata Theory,Basic Compiler Designer,Robotics,Operating Systems & much more have more value the the man who is certified in SCJP,SCJD,UML,XML,OCPS,SCWCD etc in 2 yrs.?.
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Raghav.
I do care that you know the difference between a binary tree and a hash table, and you know the difference between O(nlgn) and O(n^2). If you don't understand basic data structures, that's a big problem. Take the computer architecture course, I don't care that you know how to write assembly code for some processor. I do care that you understand concepts like registers, caching, and pipeline
Originally posted by ersin eser:
Hi Mark, What do you recommend to those who does not know these topics.
Originally posted by ersin eser:
What books &/or what classes from local colleges ? ( besides going back to college for CS degree )
What are your personal favorites?
Thanks
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Originally posted by Andrew Shafer:
I didn't forget about you Jason, I just ran out of fingers to stick in the dike.
This discussion is quite timely
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Originally posted by Mark Herschberg
This discussion is quite timely, tonight I'm going to be involved in a panel discussion at MIT called "Industry vs. Academia." :-)
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
Once you learn the theory and can "speak the language", it is relatively easy to pick up individual technologies or languages, such as Java or Servlets.
OH!!!...I am having automata theory in my next semester.So can u suggest me what should i do in this regard.Coz. my instructors are not PhD. or not specialize of corse so i hope i have to do automata at my own.So plz. suggest me some thing so that i can digest automata at my own(almost)Originally posted by Jason Menard:
But go to the bookstore and pick up a book on automata, and that's not going to be as easy to digest, to say the least.
I heard that MIT is going to start a free lectuires/notes/handout centre on the web.Is this correct.If then how long will it take.?Originally posted by Mark Herschberg:
MIT is working on making it's course materials public and free, so there's lots of related handouts, etc on the website.
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Well i do agree with u.That after going through the CS course a boy becomes language independent.But on the other
hand it is difficult 4 him to make a full fledged application in Java or C#.And i think this is the point when one need
certification.
OH!!!...I am having automata theory in my next semester.So can u suggest me what should i do in this regard.Coz. my
instructors are not PhD. or not specialize of corse so i hope i have to do automata at my own.So plz. suggest me some
thing so that i can digest automata at my own(almost)
Well, in my engr. i haven't learn the course of Descrete Mathematics(DM).But now i have decided to go through this course
in my semester break.
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Originally posted by Vikrama Sanjeeva:
Mark ur discussion at this moment is really a worth 4 us and specially at MIT.So plz. do inform us dat what the MIT is thinking abt "Industry vs. Academia.".
Originally posted by Vikrama Sanjeeva:
Well i do agree with u.That after going through the CS course a boy becomes language independent.But on the other hand it is difficult 4 him to make a full fledged application in Java or C#.And i think this is the point when one need certification.
Originally posted by Vikrama Sanjeeva:
OH!!!...I am having automata theory in my next semester.So can u suggest me what should i do in this regard.Coz. my instructors are not PhD. or not specialize of corse so i hope i have to do automata at my own.So plz. suggest me some thing so that i can digest automata at my own(almost)
Originally posted by Vikrama Sanjeeva:
I heard that MIT is going to start a free lectuires/notes/handout centre on the web.Is this correct.If then how long will it take.?
Mark Herschberg, author of The Career Toolkit
https://www.thecareertoolkitbook.com/
Raghav.
Raghav.
Tom Hennigan<P>Sun Certified Java 2 Platform Programmer
Originally posted by raghav mathur:
Since there had been a lot of discussion of what to study and what not to , i would like to ask you something on the level of mathematics in a CS , BS and MS programmes ... One should know beforehand , what has to be studied by him / her so that he / she can start with the actual course after completing the deficiency course prescribed .
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Originally posted by Mark Herschberg:
I'm not quite sure what you're asking. At a minimum, you should know Discrete Mathematics as well as an algorithms course; the latter is either taught by the math or CS dept. Some schools also require differential equations and/or linear algebra.
--Mark
[This message has been edited by Mark Herschberg (edited November 26, 2001).]
Raghav.
Originally posted by Tom Hennigan:
Oh, and I also feel that the dedication necessary to succeed in this industry is grossly underpaid. Heck, I study more now than I ever did while in college. More than many of my college friends who earned masters and PHDs.
Originally posted by John Coxey:
And thus my gripe about US-College curriculum - and why I feel it needs to be more real-world focused.
Originally posted by raghav mathur:
ok .... i think my post was a bit confusing for you . i'll try to make my point more clear to you . I've searched a lot through the university catalogs and official cirriculam. The prereqisits for a cs , BS , MS degree besides GRE are much more. Those who do come from a computer science background are reqired to complete a " deficiency course " , comprising of a bit of math , algoritms , OS etc.
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Originally posted by Mark Herschberg:
I'm not quite sure what you're asking. At a minimum, you should know Discrete Mathematics as well as an algorithms course; the latter is either taught by the math or CS dept. Some schools also require differential equations and/or linear algebra.
--Mark
[This message has been edited by Mark Herschberg (edited November 26, 2001).]
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