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How is the Java market?

 
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How is the Java job market compared to
six months or a year ago? The Java job listing
on dice.com doubled in one day (yesterday 2/20). Is this real? It kept the same level on monster.com. Is the war still an problem for
recovery?
 
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IMHO I believe the 'war situation' is keeping everyone on Wall St. at bay. Hone your skills til it's settled.
I was out of work when the 2000 election was being counted and recounted, etc, etc. As soon as it was cleared the floodgates opened up...
 
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Dice did not double in my market. If I throw out the liars and the people who don't keep their postings current, dice and techies both look real slow.
 
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I'm hoping. One or two projects that have been sleeping locally are beginning to see ads again, but they may be just taking resumes. Still, that's more than I've seen for about 5 months now. Even though they are still demanding highly improbable skill-sets.
Keep the duct tape handy and a pile of resumes printed. I figure that if the invasion of Iraq hasn't started in 2 weeks, a certain president's credibility is going to get strained and if they haven't moved in within 4, all bets are off anyway.
 
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hi tim - what improbable skill sets might thoise be? as i am just developing my skill set, i am interested in all this .
 
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Tim:
- In my adventures, I keep seeing more and more proposed projects that are sitting on the shelves while management waits for a more positive economic outlook.
- This goes back to the old "is Java dead" thread. Well, seeing these projects on hold has be believing that Java and the IT profession will be around for awhile.
- The projects I have seen would probably be too small for outsourcing - so I hope the work will remain in USA when projects finally get budget approval.
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- Here is a sampling of the projects that I have seen that were/are on hold:
* Lucent Technologies
- Project to convert Mechanized Phone Loop Testing from C/C++ (green screen) over to Java / Internet (graphical type screen). Would be a total system re-write. Enough work for 3 or 4 programmers for a year.
* Qwest Phone Company
- Customer Care Package
System would manage trouble-shooting tickets. Would dispatch tickets to appropriate field personnel. Enough work for 4 or 5 people for 2 yrs.
* Hewlett-Packard (Ft. Collins)
- Australian Telephone System (Telstra??)
Project to generate customer billing information based on Internet bandwidth usage as opposed to a flat rate billing system.
Parts of this have been completed, and work continues. But need 2 or 3 more folks on this project. 100% Java.
* Other Companies.
- Project to convert VB to Java. Want to make managerial training available over the Internet as opposed to sending out CD-Roms.
- Project to connect offices to central location. Would involve XML & SOAP * J2EE.
- Upgrading web-severs (WebSphere/WebLogic) to latest versions. Make sure existing code is compatible.
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- One project that I heard about.
- In hospitals, having doctors type orders for nurses via computer/monitor stations. Orders would automatially print out at nurse station.
Would include reminders for medications/procedures that need to be performed at certain times. Like every 30 min or something like that.
Would tie into the billing system.
Would include charting funcationality for nurses.
Above seems like a good candidate for J2EE/Java.
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Do you think the market will be much better
if war starts and ends next month? Of cause,
US wins. It seems to me the whole world is
waiting for the recovery of US.
 
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Markets are harmed more by no news then bad news. Companies know what to do in a war. They know what to do whe there's no war. Both those two are different, so they're waiting to find out which it will be. (Even if you take war as a foregone conclusion, the questions become when, how long, and to what extent).
In short, companies are paralyzed right now, and it will get better once something starts.
--Mark
 
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As far as the Java market is concerned, the market is good when companies invest in projects which require resources (programmers). Uncertain times means few projects and few needed programmers.
The programmers that ARE used typically have a hefty amount of experience under their belt, since project hires are typically short-term.
Practically no one will hire an entry-level programmer right now and won't again until companies start investing a lot more in projects again.
 
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