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Java in New York or Chicago?

 
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I've considered moving to New York or Chicago. I've seen Java job postings, and I know there is plenty of financial stuff for Java folks in Chicago, but I'm wondering what the work landscape is like otherwise, and also if any ranchers are doing a lot of Java in New York. I've got a couple of years of real world experience, so I figure I'd have to be pretty impressive in the interview...
 
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I've got a couple of years of real world experience


From what I've seen on monster.com, you should pick up one more year where you are to qualify as having "paid Java experience".
 
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Yeah, that's kind of depressing that it's hard to prove yourself otherwise. I do my day job (and I put in a lot of unpaid overtime), and despite going the extra mile, I still find time to study up on other stuff (just started that new J2EE Without EJB book, or whatever it's called), and while I know I can't compete with Bear on experience and ability, I believe that if some company could evaluate me enough they'd want me on their team. How can you go about getting yourself noticed by some small consulting company or whatever?
 
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Why do u want to move to Chicago ? Is Chicago job market better than other places ?
I am in Chicago. J2EE market is pretty good, though not everybody can find a job soon. If u are good, it is not a problem to get an offer in 2 weeks.

I am thinking to move to CA bay area though.
 
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I had just heard from various posts online that the Bay area is no longer such a great place if you don't want to risk working too much with little reward. (In other words, that long hours and such are standard with little thought of compensation). Of course, I've never been there...

Obviously NY would probably be better for J2EE just because of its size, but I've seen way more Java/J2EE in Chicago than in Houston (on Monster.com).
 
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Originally posted by Stephen Huey:
Obviously NY would probably be better for J2EE just because of its size, but I've seen way more Java/J2EE in Chicago than in Houston (on Monster.com).



Intersting but I'm not convinced. I see about as many development jobs in metro Boston as in NYC--and given that many NYC positions want some financial background, if you don't have it, Boston seems like a better bet.

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Originally posted by Mark Herschberg:


Intersting but I'm not convinced. I see about as many development jobs in metro Boston as in NYC--and given that many NYC positions want some financial background, if you don't have it, Boston seems like a better bet.

--Mark



Mark, when you mention financial background, meaning having technical experience or general finance IE, maybe accounting background or has worked in back office operations? Or maybe both?

FYI, isn't microsoft .net also popular now in nyc?
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Originally posted by Linda Pan:
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Mark, when you mention financial background, meaning having technical experience or general finance IE, maybe accounting background or has worked in back office operations? Or maybe both?

FYI, isn't microsoft .net also popular now in nyc?
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Yes.

They want you to be familiar with specific protocols like FIX, and/or understand finance, like fixed income trading, and/or have experience in a related area, e.g. banking back office. It varies by job obviously, but most want some experience unless you're right out of college.

.Net is also used. I haven't done a side by side comparison to know which is more commonly used in NYC.

--Mark
 
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