does indian work ex counts in us

[arpit sharma]

hi guys , is it true that indian work ex doesnt count in us - that they consider us as freshers.is it true for all the fields - i mean IT services , telecom , J2ee , embedded etc.

[Ganesh Prakhya]

I don't think so, Indian experience will definitely be treated in US, however, I heard somewhere in this forum, that, in UK, Indian work experience will not be considered.

Anybody correct if I am wrong.
Ganesh.

[Amit Saini]

it will surely be considered, but you won't be paid accordingly
to meet a job requirement of 5 yrs, sure, they'll consider your experience in india. but if ur thinking they'll pay you what a 5 yr exp guy in usa would earn, then thats hard!
hth
amit

[Krishna D Mohan]

My friend in US says exp. in India will be counted -- No doubt about that

Otherwise consultants can look for only freshers -- just kidding..

[Ganpi Srinivasan]

as long as u r honest abt ur Indian experience, it certainly counts!

[Mark Herschberg]

I think it depends on the work and the employer.

Having seen hundreds of of resumes of people form India, I pass on most because I find the work they have done to be not very relevant. Very often the experience is simply that of a code monkey writing to specs. The people I hire for my teams need to understand the entire SDLC and must be able to contribute to specifications, deployment, proactively solve business problems with technology, etc. If someone can't do that (whether from the US, India, or elsewhere) I don't want them.

--Mark

[nandan johri]

hi mark , As you replied that you have seen hundreds of resumes -- i just want to know a few things.

1. what do you look out for - i mean technologies and what is the depth of one's knowledge.
2. do you give any weight to certifications - i know SCJP is a very common cert - but do you give weight to J2me , J2ee certs.do they carry any extra marks.
3. what is the extent over which experience counts
4. does the name of the company one is associated with important- i mean will working for mnc make a difference to you.
5. is academic background and performance in college also taken into consideration

I am asking these things in case of a one year experience holder in Java/J2ee stream at accenture , india.



nandan

[Mark Herschberg]

First and foremost, I look for intelligence. The smarter the person the better. Paying a 20% premium for a smarter person often translate into more than a 20% increase in productivity.

Next, I look for pople who are proactive. Not just someone who can do what I tell them, but someone who can say, "you're wrong, I have a better idea;" someone who will have a concern and bring it to my attention long before it becomes a costly problem.

Third I look for people who will work well in teams.

Finally, I look for people who can communicate well, both with other engineers, and, if possible, with non-engineers.

Aftr all that, if I have two equally qualified candidates, then I might consider their specific technical skills. The fact is, the mechanics of software development isn't that hard. I laugh when I see a company say "we need someone with 5 years of WebSpehere; oh sorry, your 5 years fo WebLogic doesn't count." If you know one, and have any brains, you can easily learn the other. Likewise with Java and .NET, or with J2SE and web development, or visa versa. (The one exception to this rule is that it is helful to have 1-2 people on a team with strong depth in the technology, people who know the subtle undocumented, tricks with a particular technology).

I place no value on SCJP. Again, anyone can learn the mechancs of the language, which is all these tests can really measure. The questions I use to distinguish the candidates when it comes to technical ability are questions like "how does garbage collecton work," "how would you architect the following program..." "why are requirements difficult," etc.

Experience is about the only thing that counts. Far more than degrees or certs.

I really don't care what company you worked for, I do care about what you did there, and I will grill you on it.

I really only focs on academics if the candidate is less than 2 years out. I will say the school can be used as a rough filter. Someone who went to a ivy school, for example, is usually garanteed to have a certain base intelligence.

--Mark

[afroz pathan]

Hey Mark,
thanks MR. Bartender,
That was a very valuable advice..
I agree with the word proactive used by u.
I will definitely use that help/advice/message by u in your last post to improve my self.