Salary Nigosiation With Other Offer

[Muni Sammy]

I got a offer from a company 01 and i am going to get another offer from another company 02 . I like to know can we discuses with the salary what we got from the company 01 with company 02 to give more than that.

If we ask what the HR person will think.Otherwise how can we ask them to give more salary ??.

Is that a professional think to do so ?

[Pradeep bhatt]

No

[Muni Sammy]

Prad Dip, this is what happening commonly in India. if i am not going to use this then i will less paid right ?

[Thamizh Velan]

Originally posted by Muni Sammy:
I got a offer from a company 01 and i am going to get another offer from another company 02 . I like to know can we discuses with the salary what we got from the company 01 with company 02 to give more than that.

If we ask what the HR person will think.Otherwise how can we ask them to give more salary ??.

Is that a professional think to do so ?

Well, I would say it depends on the way you ask. The HR person would definitely talk to you about the salary expectation before rolling out an offer. At the time of salary negotiation, you may quote a number you expect / a higher number than what you have in hand, saying you're worth so and so in the market. But chances are there for the company to drop you as well if it could not afford for what you demand.

Getting an offer and revising it later showing another offer is not a real good deed and in the current (Indian) market situation, it is unlikely to happen.

PS: From your previous posts, I guess you're working in India (Chennai). Aren't you?

[Muni Sammy]

What HR will think if we ask such question to them, as my knowledge all the companies asking do you hold any offers to know how to whether they can give more than that ???

[Muni Sammy]

Is this is a Ethical Behavior ???

[Campbell Ritchie]

Originally posted by Muni Sammy:
Is this is a Ethical Behavior ???

Difficult for me, being 6000 miles away from you, but I would think it is ethical if and only if you haven't already accepted (explicitly or implicitly) either of the offers. If you have accepted either (or even let the company think you have accepted) then the only ethical thing to do is tell the other company you have accepted another offer.
But I can't see anything wrong with negotiating a salary, unless there was a specific salary in the advert. If there is a salary range, it is worth trying to negotiate starting above the bottom of the range.

[Theodore Casser]

I have to agree with Campbell - I think that it depends very much on the etiquette in your region. At least insofar as the United States, for instance, I would not feel it at all unacceptable to mention to a prospective employer that I have a better offer from another firm (or, likewise, to mention to a current employer that I've received a better offer elsewhere) in hopes that they'll match or beat it.

However - you can't really go back and forth on that kind of a thing. I think once you've mentioned to Company A that Company B has offered you such-and-such, if they match or beat that figure, I would feel that you're somewhat obligating yourself to work for Company A. Others might feel differently.

[Muni Sammy]

Salary Negotiation With Other Offer is common in US?. In india every person who is looking for a job change will have at least 4 job offer before joining.And they normally negotiate with other company to get more from the current offers...

I like to know is this is common in US also...
[ July 03, 2008: Message edited by: Muni Sammy ]

[Henry Wong]

I like to know is this is common in US also...

I am pretty sure that there are cases where this has happened in the US, but it is not common. (at least, for what I have seen) If a candidate has accepted, and then gets another offer, I would expect the candidate to honor the committment, or inform the company as early as possible that the committment has been recinded.

Renegotiating the offer, when the candidate has accepted, has not wrked a single day, and the only "value-add" being bought to the table, is just another offer -- is just not very professional, IMHO.


On the other hand, I have not been involved in the hiring of a "fresher" in a long while. The last bunch of interviews that I have been involved with were on the high-experience (10+ years) side. Maybe this does happen with "freshers" as engineering doesn't even need to get involved.

Henry

[Theodore Casser]

Originally posted by Henry Wong:
If a candidate has accepted, and then gets another offer, I would expect the candidate to honor the committment, or inform the company as early as possible that the committment has been recinded.

I think that would be the big caveat to what I'd said. I was talking about this with my wife last night, and she and I both agreed that, at least in theory, accepting a job means that you're done looking for another one, so to say the least, coming back looking for more after accepting a job would be highly unprofessional. I was talking more in the sense of before such a job was accepted (since at that stage, the goal is to maximize what you're going to get...)

[Muni Sammy]

Thanks Guys for your valuable comments. i have one clarification when we sign the offer document they are giving the Terms and conditions of the company only when we sign the Appointment Letter we are accepting the Terms and conditions of the company.

So what is the Difference between the Offer and the Appointment Letter ? .

Can't we have any control to reject the Appointment Letter if we are not happy with Terms and conditions of the company after signing the Offer Letter?

[Pradeep bhatt]

Now a days Offer letter is same as appointment letter.

[Muni Sammy]

Then what the difference of issuing the both letters ???

[Kj Reddy]

I feel nothing is wrong if you reject an offer at any point of time if you came to know some unacceptable terms and conditions.

[Theodore Casser]

Originally posted by Muni Sammy:
Can't we have any control to reject the Appointment Letter if we are not happy with Terms and conditions of the company after signing the Offer Letter?

I don't know how it is where you are, but here, I'm fairly certain that they can't force you to agree to anything - everything is a negotiation. It's just a matter of figuring out how to get to the point that you can agree to a set of mutually-acceptable terms.

[Sri Anand]

If you are rejecting after accepting it , you have to consider legal implications of what kind of documents you signed, if it is just a offer letter with, employement at Will then you can ignore it as well , but atleast inform to other party.Aslo as companies have right to choose the best talent you can chosse the kind of company you want to work with its no wrong i feel.
If company gets similar talent at lowercost they want they will choose to get a resource at cheaper price.if you find 2 companies are trying to hire you one at lower cost and other at higher cost you have the opportunity to choose the one which best fits you , no harm and nothing wrong.Only ehtics you need have is dont keep them guessing for too long and keep them informed of you decision, and above all Play safe dont get into complication waiting too long or signing a document with out reading terms and conditions


[ July 07, 2008: Message edited by: Raghunandan Mamidala ]
[ July 07, 2008: Message edited by: Raghunandan Mamidala ]

[Muni Sammy]

I Agree with your comments Raghunandan Mamidala , yes as companies are giving very short dates to join to play their side safe when they are releasing their offers..