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JScrool.getMaximum/getValue problem=

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I need to get the maximum posible scrool position of a JScrollbar

The getMaximum() simes to work fine!

But the getVlaue is not as good. When i print out all the getvalues as soon as i move the scrool i have notice that when the scrool is in the top, the value is never 0, insted its 10-20 ?

And when the Scrool bar is at the bottom it shold be the sam value that the getMaximum, but insted there can be a big diffrent, say Maximum = 5300 and the value at the buttom is about 4200-4600 ??

Is there any way to get a more specified values for the scrollers position?

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