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Originally posted by Greg Harris:
sometimes when i was floating off the coast of iraq i wondered why i was there... i mean, why in the world would anyone want to stand 7 hour watches every 5 hours in 120 degree heat?
the answer is: if we (the US) did not stick our noses in iraq's business, Saddam would have run over Kuwait and then moved on to Saudi or Iran.
China has some serious nuclear power now, so we should definitely be concerened about what they are doing. fortunately for us, they do not have the capability to land on our shores (however they do have a new ballistic missile submarine)... but, that is also the reason they will use Taiwan to draw us into a conflict.
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
Yeah and that's why we rushed into Kosovo too. After all doesn't Kosovo have the world's largest oil reserves? Oh, wait... it doesn't does it?
Shama
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Originally posted by Steven Chen:
Frankly, do you guys still think that America is at the helm of affairs here? America should wake up to the reality and see that the days of America as Super Power are over. China is the new Super Power. China is dominating every country's economy in the world, with its cheap and better quality items. This has always been true of America and now India, the next biggest market in the world is reeling under pressure from Chinese imports. China has already established its prowess as an economic super power. Our foreign policy is the best in the world. Encouraged by the govt., Chinese people attacked the US Embassy in Beijing and there was not one damn thing that the US could do about it. China is blamed for stealing defense secrets from the US. What's wrong with it? If America can not hang on to its defense secrets, is it China's fault? China already has missiles that can strike most of the cities in the US. America better recognize China's might and start respecting her.
Originally posted by Steven Chen:
China is dominating every country's economy in the world, with its cheap and better quality items. .
Originally posted by Shama Khan:
I am tempted to say "Here goes America putting its nose where it doesn't belong."
But wait don't get mad at me because I take it back because I know America, at times, is also invited to put its nose into places (ie. Balkans, Middle East, Kashmir).
Not to change the topic but here is a quote describing U.S.A.
Prosperity is the surest breeder of insolence I know.
- Mark Twain's Travels with Mr. Brown
Originally posted by Steven Chen:
Our foreign policy is the best in the world. Encouraged by the govt., Chinese people attacked the US Embassy in Beijing ...
You consider a government feeding its people false information and encouraging them to commit acts of violence foreign policy?
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Originally posted by Shama Khan:
In terms of Kuwait, U.S. moved in before being invited to protect its interests. What a way to get so many American troops into the middle east (never to leave!) and still keep charging the Saudis for it. A wonderful plan indeed.
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Pounding at a thick stone wall won't move it, sometimes, you need to step back to see the way around.
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Originally posted by Shama Khan:
In terms of Kuwait, U.S. moved in before being invited to protect its interests. What a way to get so many American troops into the middle east (never to leave!) and still keep charging the Saudis for it. A wonderful plan indeed.
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Originally posted by Steven Chen:
the days of America as Super Power are over. China is the new Super Power.
Encouraged by the govt., Chinese people attacked the US Embassy in Beijing and there was not one damn thing that the US could do about it.
China already has missiles that can strike most of the cities in the US. America better recognize China's might and start respecting her.
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Originally posted by Andrew Shafer:
Ahh. . .reminds me of my days in the good ole US military.
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So there is nothing wrong with gunning students down in the street because they dare to ask for freedom. There is nothing wrong with putting people in prison because they have different political views. There is nothing wrong with forcing prisoners to perform back breaking slave labor at the threat of death. There is nothing wrong with arresting and imprisoning people because they practice a religion that doesn't kiss the government's ass. There is nothing wrong with deliberately starving your people. There is nothing wrong with forcing women to have abortions. So in the opinion of Angela, the 4 freedoms that some of her relatives no doubt died fighting to defend is nothing more than just an alternative political system. I have to admit that I am shocked. The leaders of China are criminals. If this was 1946 they would be tried at Nuremberg and hanged. The idea that someone can compare the freedoms enjoyed in the west to the slavery suffered in China and say that China is no worse or better than the USA simply boggles my mind.Originally posted by Angela Poynton:
China and America have two very different cultures, coming from two very different histories. Neither way of living can be considered right or wrong, they are just different.
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Instead of demonstrating how insufferably ignorant you are, why not give an example of where the Americans on this thread have their heads up their asses.Originally posted by Oddjob:
from the looks of this thread so many Americans have their heads up their own @$$e$...
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Originally posted by Andrew Shafer:
Don't think the US government's proverbial poo-poo doesn't stink.
Remember Kent State? How doing syphilis tests on its own citizens? or maybe the fun radiation experiments? How about Japanese internment? Did I hear some nasty rumor about slavery in the US? The US takes political prisoners, we just don't tell people about it . . .
Cause freedom isn't free
Originally posted by Andrew Shafer:
Don't think the US government's proverbial poo-poo doesn't stink.
Remember Kent State? How doing syphilis tests on its own citizens? or maybe the fun radiation experiments? How about Japanese internment? Did I hear some nasty rumor about slavery in the US? The US takes political prisoners, we just don't tell people about it . . .
Cause freedom isn't free
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Originally posted by Thomas Paul:
So there is nothing wrong with gunning students down in the street because they dare to ask for freedom. There is nothing wrong with putting people in prison because they have different political views. There is nothing wrong with forcing prisoners to perform back breaking slave labor at the threat of death. There is nothing wrong with arresting and imprisoning people because they practice a religion that doesn't kiss the government's ass. There is nothing wrong with deliberately starving your people. There is nothing wrong with forcing women to have abortions. So in the opinion of Angela, the 4 freedoms that some of her relatives no doubt died fighting to defend is nothing more than just an alternative political system. I have to admit that I am shocked. The leaders of China are criminals. If this was 1946 they would be tried at Nuremberg and hanged. The idea that someone can compare the freedoms enjoyed in the west to the slavery suffered in China and say that China is no worse or better than the USA simply boggles my mind.[/B]
Pounding at a thick stone wall won't move it, sometimes, you need to step back to see the way around.
Originally posted by Greg Harris:
my brother-in-law is Kuwaiti... his mother, father and a sister still live there. i was there with the US Navy in 1996 and 1998. believe me, they appreciate us more than you can imagine!
Dave
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Originally posted by Greg Harris:
i served on the USS Tarawa (LHA-1) a "gator-frieghtor" that carried about 2,000 of you jarheads.
Dave
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Yes, I remember Kent State. A handful of scared National Guardsmen made a huge mistake and opened fire. They weren't oredered to do so by the government. It was a mistake. It was not the deliberate actions of the military.
The syphilis tests were the actions of a small group of doctors. It was not the approved policy of the US government.
When it was discovered it was ended immediately.
Then it was widely reported in the press so that there is little chance that anything like it will happen again.
Japanese interment occurred during a World War.
Slavery? 150 years ago. And we fought a war to end it.
Political prisoners? Name one.
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Originally posted by Angela Poynton:
Hey I was trying to put a bit of a different perspective on things. I'm a great believer in looking at the bigger picture. Personally no I don't think all of those things are right, of course not. But equally I don't think dropping a nuclear bomb ..TWICE on Japan was right either. When I think of the innocent people most of whom were not even born when the bombs were dropped who are still suffering the after effects of that ... and the many more yet to come who will also suffer it makes me sick to my stomach!
Now, you may or may not know this, but actually I am what I have learned is known as a "Yankophile" I have alaways loved American culture, I've loved every minute I've spent over there and I hope to spead many more. But just as I don't agree with many of the things my government do or don't do I don't agree with some things America, or China, or Japan, or France, or South Africa or any other country do. My main worry is America trying to take over the world by enforcing their culture, and their values upon everyone else. I'm not saying England wasn't once guilty of this, but I wouldn't have agreed with that either.
[This message has been edited by Angela Poynton (edited June 08, 2001).]
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