Lost Love....

[Anonymous]

I'm thinking of going to China to look for a Wife. Any suggestions, advice, etc Thanks, thanks, thanks in advance.

[Jason Menard]

Don't look for your wife near any military/secure governmental facilities while carrying a camera. But if you don't want to go all the way to China for a wife, you can have mine if you want.
Other than that, don't they have services for that kind of thing? They used to call them "mail order brides", but now I think they are called "introduction services" or something.
[ January 17, 2002: Message edited by: Jason Menard ]

[John Lee]

I thought yours is big before.....
Now I am more confident than ever.....
Here I come, blondie......

[John Lee]

Put it into perspective, man!
Don't just think about what the country can do for you, think about what you can do for the country!
Think about your next generation, next next generation...
Don't you like your kid running like Carl Lewis, jumping like Michael Jordan, rebounding like Dennis Rodman, boxing like Mike Tyson, riding like Lance Armstrong, swimming like a fish (oh no, I mean Ian Thorpe!)?
Do you still have dream? do you still have the love for life, the will to win, the desire for happiness and the capability to enjoy it? do you?
When you mail in a bride, from that moment on, you mail out all your hope. You know that.

[Anonymous]

If I ever have kids, at least one of them gonna be pumping iron.....it runs in the family :roll:

[Sameer Jamal]

Heaven is where you have got American Salary, Chinese food, British House and Indian Wife
Hell is where u've Chinese house, British Food , Indian Salary and American Wife
hehehe

[Michael Ernest]

Hey, I want me an Indian wife. Where does one apply?

[Sameer Jamal]

Heaven is where you have got American Salary, Chinese food, British House and Indian Wife
Hell is where u've Chinese house, British Food , Indian Salary and American Wife
hehehe

[Sameer Jamal]

Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
Hey, I want me an Indian wife. Where does one apply?

THERE IS AN AREA CALLED G.B ROAD IN NEW DELHI INDIA U CAN APPLY THERE

[sandeep balyan]

Hi Sameer
this is sandeep..
Very nice lines..great yaar ...
Now I can think of ...hahaha...
bye and take care
sandeep

[sandeep balyan]

Hey Sameer where r u sending them by name of Grant (GB) Road....

[omar khan]

lol

[Randall Twede]

good one sameer

[John Lee]

Originally posted by Sameer Jamal:
Heaven is where you have got American Salary, Chinese food, British House and Indian Wife
Hell is where u've Chinese house, British Food , Indian Salary and American Wife
hehehe

Is that right? Tell u what, right now I have an Indian wife opportunity, contract to permanent. Thanks for the information.

[Hema Menon]

Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
Hey, I want me an Indian wife. Where does one apply?

Michael, An American Indian or an Asian Indian???
Hema

[Penelope Febes-Warbaton]

NOOOOO go to JAPAN and marry HELLO KITTY instead!!! Do it Eric!!! Run Eric Run....fly to Narita now.........Arrgh!!!

[Christophe Lee]

I find this notion of wanting to marry or date a specific race VERY troubling. Although harmless in the surface, these ideas stem from subtle biases and stereotypes (such as, a dutiful and submissive female, etc). These stereotypes are exactly the roots of racism and hate.
Some privileged majority people will undoubtedly say this is overreaction and they meant no harm. It is also these very same people that do not realize their own stereotypes and so they continue their insensitive ways and continue to offend minority peoples - ignorantly.
As programmers, we are in a very diverse industry often with many international influences. Therefore, I think it is also to your professional advantage if you did not hold any sort of stereotypes of people of other cultures. And most importantly, to stop perpetuating these stereotypes.
Thanks.

[Jason Menard]

Originally posted by Christophe Lee:

Some privileged majority people will undoubtedly say this is overreaction and they meant no harm. It is also these very same people that do not realize their own stereotypes and so they continue their insensitive ways and continue to offend minority peoples - ignorantly.

I think it's a bit of a generalization (and equally offensive) to say people who think you are overeacting, or don't agree with your characterization of the thread author, are "insensitive", "ignorant", "offensive", and guilty of perpetuating stereotypes. Even more offensively you seen to be limiting your criticism to "privileged majority people", which I think it is fair to assume that you mean white people (now are you implying "priveledged" because of color of skin?).
Naturally, perpetuating sterotypes is not a good thing regardless of who is perpetuating these stereotypes, "privledged majority" or otherwise. In your zeal you seem to be guilty of doing the same thing that you are arguing against.
At the risk of being a stereotypical, offensive, and ignorant privledged majority person, I think it is very possible that in this specific case you may be overeacting concerning this particular individual. There may be several reasons he wants to go to China for a wife that have nothing to do with seeking a spouse whom, according to sterotypes, he believes will be submissive.
Maybe he just finds Chinese woman particularly attractive. Maybe he is attracted to the Chinese culture and this heightens his interest in a Chinese wife. Maybe he has given up on finding a spouse in his native country and believes that in a country with a population of over 1 billion his luck with the ladies might improve somewhat. Possibly he is socially inept and mistakenly thinks that his status as a westerner makes him desireable in a foreign country. Maybe he is of Chinese ancestery himself.
The point is I don't know his motives and neither do you. So it is quite unfair for anyone to make any assumptions of his motivations without knowing more detail. Assuming the worst of people is at least as dangerous as buying into stereotypes.
All that being said, I think if we are all really honest with ourselves, that we all buy into or even unknowingly perpetuate stereotypes in some way or another. This may be due to lack of experience with a given culture, or may in fact be due to mistakenly projecting experiences with some members of a culture onto the culture as a whole. I'm not saying this is a good thing, but it is human nature and something we should probably try to be aware of and recognize in ourselves.
[ January 20, 2002: Message edited by: Jason Menard ]

[Christophe Lee]

[QB]
I think it's a bit of a generalization (and equally offensive) to say people who think you are overeacting, or don't agree with your characterization of the thread author, are "insensitive", "ignorant", "offensive", and guilty of perpetuating stereotypes. Even more offensively you seen to be limiting your criticism to "privileged majority people", which I think it is fair to assume that you mean white people (now are you implying "priveledged" because of color of skin?).

Well, I'm a bit offended by this line of conversation. Whether that makes me extra sensitive, them insensitive, me offended, or them offensive is up for debate. If they are unaware of their offense to me, then they are ignorant of it. Therefore, I think it's ok if I call them insensitive, offensive and ignorant...or maybe I should quantify it with only myself (so far) being on the receiving end.
privilege majority people = people who have not faced discrimination or have stereotypes thrown on them. (but when we're talking race, white people are the majority...and they're privileged in not having to deal with racism to the extent that minorities do.)

In your zeal you seem to be guilty of doing the same thing that you are arguing against.

I apologize. I hate hate. If my calling people "insensitive" is insensitive and it's hypocritical or paradoxical, then so be it. But I'll apologize for it because, unfortunately, I donnot have the patience and exemplar life to show them so.

At the risk of being a stereotypical, offensive, and ignorant privledged majority person, I think it is very possible that in this specific case you may be overeacting concerning this particular individual. There may be several reasons he wants to go to China for a wife that have nothing to do with seeking a spouse whom, according to sterotypes, he believes will be submissive.
Maybe he just finds Chinese woman particularly attractive. Maybe he is attracted to the Chinese culture and this heightens his interest in a Chinese wife. Maybe he has given up on finding a spouse in his native country and believes that in a country with a population of over 1 billion his luck with the ladies might improve somewhat. Possibly he is socially inept and mistakenly thinks that his status as a westerner makes him desireable in a foreign country. Maybe he is of Chinese ancestery himself.
The point is I don't know his motives and neither do you. So it is quite unfair for anyone to make any assumptions of his motivations without knowing more detail. Assuming the worst of people is at least as dangerous as buying into stereotypes.

I'm not sure why anyone would want to go to China and get a wife. But just this general discussion of wanting to date a specific race is very disrespectful and insensitive because they quantify their reasoning with a stereotype.
We all have stereotypes and biases and its just part of human nature. But these stereotypes are seeds of racism, and consequently, of intolerance.
These stereotypes also sometimes lead well meaning people to do very hurtful and insensitive things.
Therefore, my reply is not limited to author of this thread, but to everyone who tolerates such a line of conversation.

All that being said, I think if we are all really honest with ourselves, that we all buy into or even unknowingly perpetuate stereotypes in some way or another. This may be due to lack of experience with a given culture, or may in fact be due to mistakenly projecting experiences with some members of a culture onto the culture as a whole. I'm not saying this is a good thing, but it is human nature and something we should probably try to be aware of and recognize in ourselves.

Here is something I totally agree with. And that is why I wrote in the first place - to help everyone realize their stereotypes and to prevent them into springing into racism, intolerance and hatred.

[Stevie Kaligis]

Originally posted by Christophe Lee:
...this general discussion of wanting to date a specific race is very disrespectful and insensitive because they quantify their reasoning with a stereotype.

so how did you choose your date ?

[Carol Murphy]

Perhaps he needs a woman who can keep his finances in order, feed him well, raise respectful, obedient children, and kick his ass when he needs it. Is there anything wrong with that?

[Anonymous]

Ok, I don't want a wife from China anymore, I just want a mistress. I pick China cause the currency exchange rate is about 1:5 to that of my country.

[LadyMahler]

Then you should seriously consider a South African wife. Devaluated more than 60% in the last 3 months to the US$? Did I mention that it's the cheapest and most awesome holiday you can have at this time??? We have backpackers sleeping in 5 star hotels over here. Please come spend your money in this beautiful country. :roll:
[ January 21, 2002: Message edited by: Adi du Toit ]