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Originally posted by Barry Gaunt:
What certification are you thinking about? The market is perhaps saturated as far as SCJP is concerned IMO. SCJD has potential. SCWCD and SCEA are so so.
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Originally posted by Barry Gaunt:
Are you expecting your readers to "know" Java already, or are you going to cater for complete newbees?
Originally posted by Don Liu:
I think it is for those who know Java already. However, to get certified is almost a different ball game. On the other hand, those future SCJPs are hardly 'complete newbees'.
It takes some time from when you begin to know Java to when you plan to take SCJP. I consider that sufficient in term of pre-requisite for this book.
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Originally posted by Barry Gaunt:
That is the intention of SCJP certainly, but there are quite a few people who have their minds on certification as the way to Java enlightenment/jobs. By that, I mean they're only prepared to do the minimum to get the SCJP.
[ April 19, 2003: Message edited by: Barry Gaunt ]
Originally posted by Barry Gaunt:
That is the intention of SCJP certainly, but there are quite a few people who have their minds on certification as the way to Java enlightenment/jobs. By that, I mean they're only prepared to do the minimum to get the SCJP.
[ April 19, 2003: Message edited by: Barry Gaunt ]
Originally posted by Barry Gaunt:
An interesting book would be:
"SCJP to SCJD - How to Bridge the Gap".
Many new inexperienced programmers would want a book like that covering I/O, NIO, Sockets/RMI, Swing, Project Management for Singles, et c.
Even "Project Management for Singles - how to get from SCJP to your SCJD without getting all twisted up" would be interesting.
[ April 19, 2003: Message edited by: Barry Gaunt ]
Originally posted by Barry Gaunt:
What certification are you thinking about? The market is perhaps saturated as far as SCJP is concerned IMO. SCJD has potential. SCWCD and SCEA are so so.
Originally posted by Manish Hatwalne:
Very true!!!
And this lack of knowledge gets reflected in the job interviews, and unnecessarily SCJP cert gets a bad name!!!
- Manish
Originally posted by Barry Gaunt:
An interesting book would be:
"SCJP to SCJD - How to Bridge the Gap".
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Originally posted by Barry Gaunt:
"Java Certification Cookbook"??
You mean a bit like this book? You may recognise some of the authors. Plenty of real exam experience between 'em. Yours truly did the tech edit. Of course it should be updated for 1.4 now.Originally posted by Don Liu:
There are many SCJP books out there, but all of them are very thick. Maybe the best bet will be to write a thin book [...]
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For an SCJD book, you would also need to familiarise yourself with the new exam which differs quite a bit from the old one.
Originally posted by Peter den Haan:
You mean a bit like this book? You may recognise some of the authors. Plenty of real exam experience between 'em. Yours truly did the tech edit. Of course it should be updated for 1.4 now.
Originally posted by Peter den Haan:
I doubt whether you will be able to interest a publisher in a SCJP book. Too much well-established competition. I would agree that, of the Sun certs, SCJD is the only market that isn't saturated (although what's there is good). The problem at the moment is that the IT book market is pretty slow, and even well-established publishers such as Wrox are collapsing.
Do not underestimate how much effort goes into writing and producing a book! There's a huge gap between knowing enough to pass the exam and knowing enough to write a book about it. Good reviewers are a must; the publisher will have their own pool of reviewers but if you can get an established name to volunteer for the job it will help your credibility. For an SCJD book, you would also need to familiarise yourself with the new exam which differs quite a bit from the old one.
Originally posted by Peter den Haan:
Finally, do it for the love of Java and writing. Don't even think of doing it for the money at this stage. You'll make more sweeping the floor at the local hairdresser's. But it's a great experience, it adds real depth to your knowledge, and there's a definite kick in seeing your name on the spines in the bookstore.
- Peter
[ April 24, 2003: Message edited by: Peter den Haan ]
Originally posted by Peter den Haan:
Finally, do it for the love of Java and writing. Don't even think of doing it for the money at this stage.
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