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Hockey quiz for ya:
1. How many future hall of famers is allowed on one team?
2. Which team has the longest streak without winning a Stanley Cup (excluding teams that moved)?
3. What did Detroit Red Wings players have for dinner after they beat Carolina in game 2 of the finals?
4. What would Anna Kournikova take off the mighty Detroit Red Wings, if being signed as unrestricted free agent?
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1. Any, Detroit will probably have 7-8.
2. Not sure, but almost certain it is Philadelphia Flyers (sucks for me)
3. Squid (because fans threw enough of it on the ice to feed a team)
4. I think she would take off..... Ok, concentrate....What I was trying to say is that she would probably "shave" off $3-4 million (it was a hockey question, after all. Besides, imagine how confused the opposing team would look... Definitely a good "distraction")
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I guess they don't play hockey in India... no pun intended
 
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Shura, here is a small homework for you. Find out how many athletes did India have at the last Olympic games. You will be stunned with the number considering that this is a country with a population of billion.
By the way, start talking about chicken curry and you will have them all involved
 
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India had I believe one entrant at the Winter games in Salt Lake.
 
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Originally posted by Jake the Snake:

By the way, start talking about chicken curry and you will have them all involved


Precicely what I DON'T want to do. I am looking for substance, you know, deep Philosophy, understanding of ethernal life... What comes out is mostly chicked curry and polymorphisms.

Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:

Serious advise
Map you can become like Budha, who run away from society to get enlighten. (Though his reason was different). Once you will be enlightened then everyone will listen you and follow you.


I guess Mr. Ravish is a little confused here. Some enlightened people have been burned on a cross... I'm pretty sure one of Buddha's reasons to go away was to hide from all the chicken curry talk.
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Originally posted by Michael Ernest:
India had I believe one entrant at the Winter games in Salt Lake.


And exactly five participants at the Summer games!
 
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...2. Which team has the longest streak without winning a Stanley Cup (excluding teams that moved)?...


Chicago (last Cup, 1961), Toronto is next (1967), the Blues and Los Angeles, who joined the league in 1967-68, are next.
Philadelphia won in 1974 and 1975
 
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Originally posted by Shura Balaganov:
1. How many future hall of famers is allowed on one team?


Hmmm...future hall of famers from Detroit...
Nicklas Lidstrom
Igor Larionov
Brendan Shanahan
Brett Hull
Steve Yzerman
Luc Robitaille
Chris Chelios
Dominik Hasek
Sergei Fedorov
Well, I count 9 that at least have a good shot of making the Hall of Fame. Granted, I don't get to make the decisions, so these might not be all correct, but those are some of my best guesses.
However, if you want to take a look at Carolina...
Arturs Irbe
Ron Francis
Rod Brind'Amour
Hmmm...I only come up with 3 and Irbe is a big question mark. Of course, Carolina has a lot of young talent so it's difficult to see if they'll end up in the Hall of Fame or not. Right now, I'd say that Erik Cole and Josef Vasicek have a good chance if their careers continue down the path they're on. They've got a long way to go.
So, seeing the difference in talent, I wonder if there is something to be said about "buying" the Stanley Cup. Gee, it sure is tough to win when you pick up the best players from around the league and shell out $60M for 'em. Look again at the list of future hall of famers in Detroit and see how many have only recently come to Detroit:
Brett Hull (Blues/Stars)
Luc Robitaille (Kings)
Chris Chelios (Blackhawks)
Dominik Hasek (Sabres)
Most of these hall of famers weren't developed by Detroit. They just bought 'em up so they could make a run for the cup.
 
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Isn't that what they are SUPPOSED to do? Put together the best team possible.
 
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Originally posted by Cindy Glass:
Isn't that what they are SUPPOSED to do? Put together the best team possible.


Of course... Just ask George Steinbrenner!
 
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Yuhoo! Hockey fans here
My bad about Philadelphia, actually I whould've phrased the question differently. I am certain that, out of all US cities who have 4 major sports teams, Philadelphia has the longest streak without a championship.
Philadelphia
Hockey: Flyers - 1975
Basketball: 76ers - 1982-83
Football: Eagles - never
Baseball: Phillies - 1980
So it's been 19 years now, and counting...
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Originally posted by Cindy Glass:
Isn't that what they are SUPPOSED to do? Put together the best team possible.


Of course it is. I'm not really trying to badmouth the Red Wings organization. If I were in their position, I'd probably do the same thing. The problem is that lower income teams like Carolina (used to be Hartford) and Pittsburgh will almost never have a chance at winning a Stanley Cup. These organizations can't afford to pay out $60M for the best players in the league. Rather, they have to try to develop players on their own rather than just getting the best from around the league. Obviously, it's more difficult to build a winner than to buy one. If there is no limit on salaries, teams like Detroit and Colorado will continue to dominate the league (this really isn't any different from the Yankees or the Lakers). Take the Florida Marlins of a few years back. They had an awful team one year. Then, the following year, they brought in a lot of high priced talent and won the World Series. Following that year, all of their talent was gone and they, subsequently, stunk again. Of course, I don't know if a salary cap is the answer, either - I've got my gripes about that, too.
Anyway, enough griping - go Canes!
 
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The right type of cap works. It works in the NFL. Different teams every year or every couple of years keeps it fresh. The NBA is a joke. They have a cap kinda sorta. Baseball is the terrible. Same team/teams year after year. Saying nothing is wrong at all just ask us.
 
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Cap might help, but not for Philly. We have tons of cash, Flyers are constantly in the top 3 payrols, we've got 4 different stadiums now, still nothing. It is the right Organizations, that work well with City government, that produce winners, not payrols. Red Wings I think are an exception.
I loved russian 5 a few years back: Fedorov, Larionov, Vyacheslav Kozlov, Konstantinov, Fetisov.
Go Canes, you are clearly outmatched.
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Well, sure. Having a team full of overpaid has-beens isn't going to win you a championship, either. Just look at the New York Rangers. Year in and year out, they have one of the highest payrolls in the league and they seldom make it deep into the playoffs, if they make it at all.
But, then again, look at teams like Detroit and Colorado. They've got the right mix. They've got some homegrown talent and some high-priced "bought" talent. I think you really need to have both to be successful. However, for the smaller scale franchises, the high-priced "bought" talent just isn't a possibility - they don't have the money for it. So, the question is, how do you compete with a team like Detroit when you can't stack your team with ringers like they can? I don't think many of the smaller franchises can. I mean, take a look at Carolina - those guys are playing their hearts out and it just doesn't seem to be enough. Down 3 games to 1 and it doesn't look like there's much hope - they just can't generate any offense.
I wouldn't complain too much about Philly, either. They really had a great year. Unfortunately for them, they kinda slumped coming into the playoffs. If you want to make a deep run in the playoffs, you'd better come in on a high note. Take a look at Detroit - they were really slumping as they came into the playoffs and they almost got bounced by Vancouver. I think the veteran leadership (that's the high-priced talent, mind you) really helped to turn that around. Just think of how different the playoffs could be if Detroit would have been gone in the first round. Then again, it probably wouldn't be all that different - we'd just see Colorado defending their cup instead of Detroit in the finals.
 
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Originally posted by Shura Balaganov:

Precicely what I DON'T want to do. I am looking for substance, you know, deep Philosophy, understanding of ethernal life... What comes out is mostly chicked curry and polymorphisms.


Deep philosophy is closely related to chicken curry. Actually not all types of chicken curry are philosophical. It depends on what part of the chicken was used. Some people say that the philosophy of chicken curry made from a packet of chicken wings can only be understood by those with hairlines that start from their eyebrows , on the other hand curry made from chicken breast has a tantric quality about it. I have seen people levitate after eating it.
[ June 11, 2002: Message edited by: Fyodor Myshkin ]
 
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Ahem.
 
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Congrats to Detroit.
I still think this was not The Best team money could buy... They had it all: toughness, experience, great coach, future-hall-of-fame players, etc. But one component was definitely missing. Beauty. And I mean physical beauty, it is not very pleasant to watch dudes with broken noses stick it to each other (well, that statement is shaky, 'cause I watch it for sport, and women might argue that a man without a bruise is not a man....).
So, to conclude this, Detroit needed one key component added to this team to be a legend. And this component was: Anna Kournikova

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"I guess they don't play hockey in India... no pun intended"
Was there a pun in the original statement? Maybe people should stick to their original language.
 
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Maybe people should post under their original name, if people are so smart. On second thought, maybe people should be actually proud they know more than one language.
How does this relate to hockey?
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"Was there a pun in the original statement? "
Maybe he was trying to be punny
 
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