Thank God For Drunk Chicks!

[Randall Twede]

the woman who used to live 2 doors down from me came by saturday night. im not sure where she moved to but it cant be that far since she managed to stagger over here to hit on me. of course i didnt take advantage but i did kiss her when she asked me to.

[Dave Vick]

Some guys have all the luck

[Randall Twede]

well i dont know about that...first kiss i've had in over 10 years!

[Pranav Jaidka]

.......and the girl was drunk ???

[Pranav Jaidka]

Randall........ive never been in this situation before......and dont think I will even be in one ?? anyhow .......what was gonig through your mind man ??? why did you let her go ??
Since she came to your place ....drunk.....and she was the one hitting on you...

[Randall Twede]

because i respect her. maybe she wanted more, maybe all she wanted was to cuddle and smooch...i hope she comes over again when she not totally bombed

[Dave Vick]

Much as I hate to I have to agree with Randall. IT is not right nor is it fair to take advantage of someone in that condition. the fact that she came to your place does mean that she is probably interested in you - else why would she have gone there in the first place.
I hope your right and she comes over again not drunk. Do you have her phone number? you could call her and ask her out....

[Rosie Vogel]

When I had just met my fiance he used to react really funny whenever I said he was sweet. He thought it meant "I think you're a wimp" or something.
Now, I hesitate whenever I want to pay a man a heartfelt compliment. Will they somehow take it the wrong way? (and they say women are complicated!)
But I'll take my chances: Randall, I think you're a true gentleman. And if your "drunk chick" has any sense in her she'll be back.

[Mark Spritzler]

Randall. It is ok that you didn't take advantage of her.
Ok, you now know that she likes you, otherwise she wouldn't have come over, drunk or not.
So you could wait to see if she comes back. However, I highly suggest, if you like her yourself, that you don't wait.
Here's why. Even though she was drunk, she might have been "Sober" enough to think that because you didn't take advantage of her, that you aren't interested. Therefore you need to let her know you are.
Mark

[Rosie Vogel]

Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:
Only imagine, a woman wanted to have a good time, as a decent member of society she cannot openly say it, so she resorted to the last thing: got drunk and came to a man's house.

That sounds like an extremely complicated way to get your way. She cannot say what she wants because she is too "decent" but she is not too decent to get falling-down-drunk ?
[ June 10, 2002: Message edited by: Rosie Vogel ]

[Pranav Jaidka]

Female Psychology at work ???........Im not too good judging them when they are in their senses............so just cant figure out what they think when they are drunk .
But I definitely would have had a tough time handling that situation.
I guess Randall the only thing to do is ASK .....as Mark suggested...If you are interested
ARE YOU?? Since youre hoping she comes back in her senses.....i think yuo are.....
[ June 10, 2002: Message edited by: Pranav Jaidka ]

[Anonymous]

as drunk as she was i think if she had wanted more than smooching she would have stuck her hand in my pants. im glad she didn't cause i'm not sure how much of a gentleman i really am. i think i know a way to get in touch with her we have a mutual friend. anyway i have a final in 20 minutes, so later.

[Jason Menard]

if she had wanted more than smooching she would have stuck her hand in my pants.

Yeah but in some countries that's just a common form of friendly greeting... kind of like a handshake.

[Corey McGlone]

Originally posted by Jason Menard:

Yeah but in some countries that's just a common form of friendly greeting... kind of like a handshake.

Where is that? I just might have to vacation there sometime.

[Shura Balaganov]

I guess me and Map come from different background then most of you guys....But, just as Map did, I fail to find any other reason why would she come over. Unless she really wanted it, but maybe was shy or was afraid to get a "friendly handshake" otherwise. Excuse me, but your "gentleman" behavior might've produced one nasty pissed woman.
Let's look at facts:
1. She came over by herself - she looks at you at least as object of friendly conversation
2. She was drunk, but came over TO YOUR HOUSE - she looks at you at least as a safe person to be around vulnerable
3. It was Saturday night - she had all night on her hands
4. She hit on you, and you kissed - I am speachless.
She wanted cuddle and smooch??? A you out of your freaking mind? I guess you expected of her to write in big letters on the wall "TAKE ME"???
Well, since I've been there before (ah, college years ), my personal opinion is that you blew it. Maybe you have 50% chance now to get her, but you'd have to try hard now, 'cause I can guarantee she's pissed.
Define a "gentleman". Is that a person who doesn't sleep with women? No. Is that a person who doesn't take advantage of a woman? Yes, when she's drunk on the street, or in a club (unless she got drunk WITH you). But when a woman comes over drunk and hits on you, she is not vulnerable. To keep your consciousness clean, you could've asked whether she got drunk and then decided to visit you, or wise versa (good luck pulling that off :roll: ). BTW, are you scary looking?
Here's a reality check: was she american or from some ethnic background?
Shura
[ June 10, 2002: Message edited by: Shura Balaganov ]

[Shura Balaganov]

No Map, remember anecdote about a gnome in public baths? He goes around introducing himself "How do you do...How do you do..." Then realizes that people's hands are a little higher above?
Shura

[Randall Twede]

well anyway, it made me feel really good to feel wanted and i returned her affection so it is all good whether anything comes of it or not.
the funny thing is a few months ago the shoe was on the other foot. i was hitting on her when i was drunk. i remember she wouldnt let me kiss her then so i figured she wasnt interested

[Shura Balaganov]

Randall, it makes sence. She wasn't sure then whether you were really interested, or just hitting on anything that moves, so she passed.
I'd ask her out on a date or something. Better yet, for a dinner and a movie in your house, with wine.
Two more things for ya to digest.
1. What about touch? Did you touch intimately (not necessarily intimate body parts), was she resentful or not?
2. Did she look dressed up and (more importantly) wear a g-string?
You guess the rest. Good luck
Shura
P.S. Map, I like your thinking Bottle of vodka would definitely do, or, for someone really special, a couple of top notch books

Posted by Mapraputa Is:
And when I am saying 'really like', it means that the thing can bring you into deeper existential ecstasy than a bottle of vodka.

[ June 10, 2002: Message edited by: Shura Balaganov ]

[Corey McGlone]

Originally posted by Mapraputa Is:

Antarctica?

*Sniff* Are you trying to get rid of me already, Map? *Sniff*

[Jake the Snake]

Originally posted by Randall Twede:
i didnt take advantage ...

Take advantage of what? Her? Randall, if you did whatever you have had on your mind , she would've loved it and she would've asked for more. You should've had few drinks yourself and just went with the flow. Sooner or later you will realize that there is no "next time".
And remember one more thing,
nice guys always finish last!

[Jim Yingst]

[Jason:] Yeah but in some countries that's just a common form of friendly greeting... kind of like a handshake.
[Corey:] Where is that? I just might have to vacation there sometime.
Not to be a prude, but for most of the people I shake hands with, I prefer to leave it at that.

[Randall Twede]

ok let me see if i got this right.
I get drunk and hit on her and she turns me down.

She wasn't sure then whether you were really interested, or just hitting on anything that moves, so she passed.

so i shouldnt feel rejected
she gets drunk and hits on me. i return her affection without trying to get her in the sack right away.

she got a deep psychological trauma

and

Maybe you have 50% chance now to get her, but you'd have to try hard now, 'cause I can guarantee she's pissed.

:roll:

[Shura Balaganov]

Women... :roll:

[Shura Balaganov]

Godly creatures...
Just a thought out of the blue. When I respect a woman as a person (admire her for something other than looks), there's something in there that makes it uneasy to think about her sexually. Another words, I am not a fan of f@#%ing something I respect.
Doesn't that make "love" a contradictory term, or am I the only freak like that?
Shura
[ June 10, 2002: Message edited by: Shura Balaganov ]

[Randall Twede]

i'll have to wait till i cant get a download going to get it. busy building my library
with over 1300 songs, i hope its not one i already have :roll:
[ June 10, 2002: Message edited by: Randall Twede ]

[Michael Ernest]

So, Map. Would you like a drink?

[Randall Twede]

interesting song...of course i dont have a clue what he is saying :roll:

[Axel Janssen]

russian-style-drunken-girl-perception is better.
Even if you look from an ethic standpoint (and not from a hedonistic personal fun standpoint):
Is "to not take advantage" an ethic standpoint? I don't think so, because we don't know what she wanted.
[ June 10, 2002: Message edited by: Axel Janssen ]

[Axel Janssen]

... better than as what I see as an exagerated concept of responsability (not abuse).
(haven't said with this that I think that russians are irresponsible, or that Shuras standpoint is specific russian)
[ June 10, 2002: Message edited by: Axel Janssen ]

[Shura Balaganov]

Ah, interesting (rubbing hands....scratching head....taking a sip of unknown-brand beer)
Axel's "perception" seems to be close on target. Definite Gypsy flawor there. Singer's last name - Sukachev - almost perfectly translates into Son-of-a-bitch.
Basically, mine sorry behind always had troubles explaining locals all this. You'd have to go deep inside yourself (like smoke a joint, but I wouldn't know 'cause I don't smoke, so whatever works), find a string that is burried there, and strike it. Whatever tone comes out may be this something you've been looking for all your life. So when you'll find a song, or a woman (or a man???), that sounds unison to it, then you'd understand what this song is about.
Here's my second, and last try. Some people are taught to be good, go to church, drive responsibly, believe in president, go to college, get a credit card, buy new car, buy a house, have kids, etc. I could create a lot of fancy powerpoint presentations with graphs about the life of these people, even before they are born. Some other people take everything they are taught with a grain of salt, son't believe in debts and good presidents, and live as if today is the last day of their lives. These 2 types of people usually never intersect on course of their lives, maybe on a stoplight. Most russians I knew back there came from this second category. I left a few very dear friends there.
What this has to do with Drunk Chicks? Absolutely nothing.
Anyhow, I wrote a lot of blah here, I wish I could post a song-reply back instead...
Shura

[gautham kasinath]

hey guys..
have you listened to "Man smart, Woman Smarter", by Harry Belefonte??
I guess you guys must listen to that..
and gals too!!!
Regds
Gautham Kasinath

[Randall Twede]

a lot of people are assuming that because she came over drunk it is a sure sign she wanted sex. perhaps she just came over to visit or to find out if i liked her too....maybe she doesnt even remember coming over :roll:
anyway, wham bam thank you maam doesnt have much appeal for me. i want more than that.
[ June 10, 2002: Message edited by: Randall Twede ]

[Shura Balaganov]

"mine sorry behind" (as a noun, like Johnny) always had troubles explaining (whom?) Locals(what?) all this. Nothing fancy, Map, just a phrase.

Originally posted by Axel Janssen:
... better than as what I see as an exagerated concept of responsibility (not abuse).
(haven't said with this that I think that russians are irresponsible, or that Shura's standpoint is specific russian)

I was thinking about responsibility as non-measurable subject, it either present or not, just like boolean I don't subscribe to black-and-white theory, so in my point of view my opinion is not ethnicly specific, but who knows these days
Randall, no one is assuming anything, we base our logic on limited data that you supply. I'm sure you yourself are curious what was on her mind. If you made a move, you'd be one step ahead now in knowing.
Map, don't want to open a can of worms, but if you respected your cat, and then felt bad for him(her?) to be fixed, is there something you are not telling us?
Shura

[Randall Twede]

ok lets just say relationship means more to me than sex. anyway the ball is in my court again now. i have to make next move.
PS: the phrase is "my sorry ass" not "mine sorry behind" lol

[Randall Twede]

shura,
just saw your post about two types of people...i definately am in the second group

[Randall Twede]

map,
i had a tomcat once and i saw him hide in the bushes and attack a full grown labrador retriever and win!
dang now you distracted me and i cant remember why i came here..
well i totally lost my train of thought if i find it i'll get back to you
ok i remember...it was about the word joy.
for me, for longer than i care to remember, that has been just a word not something i feel. but last weekend i felt it when she came up behind my chair and embraced me. that is why i started this post and titled it thank god for drunk chicks
[ June 11, 2002: Message edited by: Randall Twede ]

[Sameer Jamal]

Why such a big discussion Randall just visit her place and ask her what she wanted that night then most of the confusions will be clear

[Sameer Jamal]

This thread is an example of creating KILL out of KISS

[Michael Ernest]

I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. But I'll take a sassy Russian woman over both.

[Randall Twede]

sameer,
well she moved away so i dont know where she lives now. i can probly find out though.
to be honest:
1. she took me by surprise. i hadnt even thought of her after the night i got drunk and affectionate.
2. ive been chasing girls half my age. they look a whole lot better.
3. im not certain of my feelings for her. although she certainly made some points by making me feel wanted
map> to "hit on" someone means to "make advances toward" them
[ June 11, 2002: Message edited by: Randall Twede ]