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I see Blair is bashing Chirac.
Is there a significant portion of the GB population that hate the French?
[ February 18, 2003: Message edited by: Rufus BugleWeed ]
 
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ROFL
 
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This is good stuff
Chirac said the 13 should have consulted the EU before issuing their joint letters and they had ``missed a great opportunity to shut up.''
Czech Foreign Minister Cyril Svoboda retorted: ``We are not joining the EU so we can sit and shut up.'' :roll:
Romanian Prime Minister Adrian Nastase said: ``Every time I have a dispute with my wife, I shout at my sons. So the problem of Mr. Chirac apparently is with the Americans and not with Romania and Bulgaria.''
 
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Is anyone really surprised that this guy is trying to bully these Eastern European countries into adopting his own stance on things? And threatening their EU membership if they don't fall in line? I saw tapes of the briefing where those comments were made. I though he was going to start crying.
 
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Arizona Rep. Senator John McCain's speech from last week
The following is taken from the above speech:
Compare our great power allies in the Cold War with those with whom we act today in dealing with Iraq.
France has unashamedly pursued a concerted policy to dismantle the U.N. sanctions regime, placing its commercial interests above international law, world peace and the political ideals of Western civilization. Remember them? Liberte, egalite, fraternite. It withdrew from enforcing the "no-fly zones" and did not participate in Operation Desert Fox to punish Iraq for expelling UNSCOM (United Nations Special Commission). France abstained from Security Council Resolution 1284, which created a weakened UNMOVIC (United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission) successor to UNSCOM, because it knew that Saddam Hussein would otherwise refuse to steer lucrative Iraqi contracts under the oil-for-food program to Paris. France was among the first countries to violate the U.N. ban on air travel into Iraq after Saddam signaled that future oil-for-food contracts were contingent on making sanctions-busting commercial flights. Today, the French foreign minister, who voted for Resolution 1441 and warned of the serious consequences Iraqi defiance would entail, says that "Nothing justifies military action" against Iraq. And President Chirac, who once approved the sale to Iraq of a nuclear reactor knowing that in a country floating on a sea of oil it could have only one real purpose, today says he sees no irrefutable proof of Iraq's WMD program.
Like France, Russia opposed Operation Desert Fox, abstained on Resolution 1284, and was the first to take advantage of Saddam's invitation to break the U. N. ban on air travel into Iraq. Russia has sold Baghdad gyroscopes for its advanced missile programs. Today, Russia opposes enforcing the terms of Resolution 1441 in the face of Iraq's defiance. Just as Soviet envoy, Yevgeny Primakov, tried to come to Saddam's rescue on the eve of the (Persian) Gulf War, today Russia joins a coalition of the willing to find "peace at any price" for Baghdad.
Gerhard Schroeder's Germany looks little like the ally that anchored our presence in Europe throughout the Cold War. A German Rip Van Winkle from the 1960s would not understand the lack of political courage and cooperation with its allies on the question of Iraq exhibited in Berlin today. Does the Schroeder government demonstrate anything approaching the kind of resolve that helped Germany and the United States successfully contain Soviet power?
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We should make Poland a permanent member on the UN Security Council instead of France.
Why do we let them get away with collaboration??
 
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We should make Poland a permanent member on the UN Security Council instead of France.


What I read calls for ouster of the French and in with the Indians. Wouldn't that frost Pakistan.
[ February 19, 2003: Message edited by: Rufus BugleWeed ]
 
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Originally posted by John Dunn:
Arizona Rep. Senator John McCain's speech from last week
The following is taken from the above speech:
Compare our great power allies in the Cold War with those with whom we act today in dealing with Iraq.
France has unashamedly pursued a concerted policy to dismantle the U.N. sanctions regime, placing its commercial interests above international law, world peace and the political ideals of Western civilization. Remember them? Liberte, egalite, fraternite. It withdrew from enforcing the "no-fly zones" and did not participate in Operation Desert Fox to punish Iraq for expelling UNSCOM (United Nations Special Commission). France abstained from Security Council Resolution 1284, which created a weakened UNMOVIC (United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission) successor to UNSCOM, because it knew that Saddam Hussein would otherwise refuse to steer lucrative Iraqi contracts under the oil-for-food program to Paris. France was among the first countries to violate the U.N. ban on air travel into Iraq after Saddam signaled that future oil-for-food contracts were contingent on making sanctions-busting commercial flights. Today, the French foreign minister, who voted for Resolution 1441 and warned of the serious consequences Iraqi defiance would entail, says that "Nothing justifies military action" against Iraq. And President Chirac, who once approved the sale to Iraq of a nuclear reactor knowing that in a country floating on a sea of oil it could have only one real purpose, today says he sees no irrefutable proof of Iraq's WMD program.
Like France, Russia opposed Operation Desert Fox, abstained on Resolution 1284, and was the first to take advantage of Saddam's invitation to break the U. N. ban on air travel into Iraq. Russia has sold Baghdad gyroscopes for its advanced missile programs. Today, Russia opposes enforcing the terms of Resolution 1441 in the face of Iraq's defiance. Just as Soviet envoy, Yevgeny Primakov, tried to come to Saddam's rescue on the eve of the (Persian) Gulf War, today Russia joins a coalition of the willing to find "peace at any price" for Baghdad.
Gerhard Schroeder's Germany looks little like the ally that anchored our presence in Europe throughout the Cold War. A German Rip Van Winkle from the 1960s would not understand the lack of political courage and cooperation with its allies on the question of Iraq exhibited in Berlin today. Does the Schroeder government demonstrate anything approaching the kind of resolve that helped Germany and the United States successfully contain Soviet power?
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We should make Poland a permanent member on the UN Security Council instead of France.
Why do we let them get away with collaboration??


why not? we we would get a convenient "yes-man" country, continually begging at America's table for a few scraps of aid instead of forcing us to justify our actions why not?
 
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An article from a French newspaper discussing what to make of Chirac's tirade and what it means for the EU and US-European relations: http://www.iht.com/articles/87142.html .
I hadn't previously thought about it, but it does make quite some sense, in a historical context anyway, for the Eastern Europeans to tend to shy away from a position held by a bloc that includes the Germans and Russians.
 
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