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Commentary From the Sidelines of history
Originally posted by Sriraj Rajaram:
Bad move!
Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:
AW India has just said what is correct, it needs UN agreement.
No way India can be said wrong.
Noting further that other States that are not occupying powers are working now or in the future may work under the Authority,
Welcoming further the willingness of Member States to contribute to stability and security in Iraq by contributing personnel, equipment, and other resources under the Authority,
Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:
So India should lick..... like pak ,to get oil business and seat to security council.
Pandit ji made nice decision by starting NAM, I think its time to revive it again instead of doing something aginst public opinion or against moral.
What is the need of police/UN, why not everyone/nations are out with gun in the name of its own security and personal interest ??
But I am 100% sure that whatever you are thinking, people in resposible posts must have thought it before taking this decision, like they knew that sanctions would be there if they do nuclear test and still they did.
Commentary From the Sidelines of history
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
There is more in the resolution about UN member states supplying resources (such as personnel) to meet the Iraqis needs (such as security).
-- Ensures the UN plays a vital role in Iraq's reconstruction. The resolution establishes the position of a UN Special Representative of the Secretary General who will coordinate humanitarian and reconstruction assistance; assist in the development of representative government institutions; facilitate the reconstruction of key infrastructure; and promote economic, legal and judicial reform, and protection of human rights. The Special Representative will work with the Coalition and the people of Iraq to facilitate a process leading to an internationally recognized, representative government of Iraq.
Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:
I dont think anywherer in this fact sheet its written that any country should send troops to Iraq. Even its following the resolution 1483:
-- Encourages international support for Iraq's recovery. The resolution makes it possible for states and organizations to support the Iraqi people in building a free, prosperous and secure Iraq, including by responding to UN humanitarian appeals, providing resources for reconstruction, and contributing to stability and security in Iraq.
Originally posted by Sriraj Rajaram:
India was in bed with the Soviet Union for the greater part of the cold war.
Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:
Looks like INDIAN in US are under pressure to sending troops to IRAQ.
Commentary From the Sidelines of history
Originally posted by Amitabh Sharma:
Sriram makes a good point that if India had sent troops to Iraq then US would have possibly given India huge projects in rebuilding Iraq. Now India cannot hope to get a piece of that pie.
But on the other hand it would have alienated Iraqi people.
They would see India aligned with the US and UK and that is not good. At the same time lets not forget that Arab nations may say all the right things diplomatically but they are no friends of India. After all a lot of Mumbai dons find shelter in Dubai. There are bunch of jihadis fighting in Kashmir who come from Arab nations thanks to ISI and Osama.
Indian troops would have learned something from US forces and it would be a good chance to do some networking. Look at Pakistan. It does everything that US says and yet every year it gets mostly Arab Islamic Council to pass anti India resolutions.
Morally speaking India did the right thing.
Practically speaking it was wrong decision.
Originally posted by Sriraj Rajaram:
I would rather state that some Indians understand the situation much better than their counterparts (irrespective of their location). Much like the frog of the ocean compared to the frog in the well.
Amitabh makes an excellent point by comparing Pakistan's actions that are overtly pro-US while it still garners support from other Islamic nations. We can all take the moral high-ground, but it wont help any of us in the long run. A better approach would be to take sides silently.
It is fine that we didnt sent troops to perform the actual combat, but we could definetly help out in the peacekeeping and thereby underline our commitment to Indo-US relations.
[ July 15, 2003: Message edited by: Sriraj Rajaram ]
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Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:
By JM:
India is helping in his own way in stablising and providing security to Iraq:
Originally posted by Ravish Kumar:
Second Iraq knows that India did not support this war.
Third in future Iraq can be seen as friend of India as it was.
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
And I'm sure 10 years from now that the Iraqi government and people will remember exactly which nations preferred to see the Iraqi people suffer under Saddam. I'm very sure that the Shiite majority and the Kurdish minority in particular will remember who supported them and who didn't. The Baathist Sunni minority though will doubtless remain thankful.
Originally posted by Dilip Kumar:
Hello Jason,
I am Dilip here.
Dont you think that ONLY US AND UK SHOULD CLEAN THE DIRTY MESS.
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
Sure, we are used to shouldering responsibility where others can't or won't. For my own reasons, I would prefer only the US, UK, and a few other select nations to have anything to do with the rebuilding of Iraq. However taking into account the needs of the Iraqi people, the more security forces on the ground, particularly from a variety of different countries, the quicker security may be able to be restored. The usual players, those who are truly interested in helping the Iraqi people, will step up to the plate and be a part of the solution.
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
India has stated it would only send troops with UN authorization.
As has been shown, that authorization was provided in UN 1483.
Originally posted by Dilip Kumar:
Is that the reason why US Soldiers are killed every day?
Originally posted by Jason Menard:
And I'm sure 10 years from now that the Iraqi government and people will remember exactly which nations preferred to see the Iraqi people suffer under Saddam.
Originally posted by Pradeep Bhat:
How can you integrate with the US society without changing yourselves. (do you remember your previous posts)Your environment has changed you. Thats the fact.
Nothing wrong in it, but it does not mean that you are right.
Anyway to correct you, it was the right move of, again Pandit ji, to help and get help from USSR.
I hope you know the political and economical conditions of India and surrounding nations in late 50s and early 60s
It would have been shameful if INDIA had sent troops.
It is good that the dual citizenship did not include voting rights. Otherwise my country would have some crap govt working for USA voted by INDIANs in USA
One can live with dry Roti, if he does not get cake
What US has done for it ??
US will keep supporting Pakistan even if you prove anything to the world because US knows its limitation over India and its power over Pakistan.
Commentary From the Sidelines of history
Originally posted by Sriraj Rajaram:
Let me ask you this, what has India done to deserve US support? Inspite of all the antagonistic tactics employed by Indian government. US backed us during the Kashmir crisis. US has repeatedly asked Pakistan to end sponsored terrorism. US has provided more aid and trade to India than our deeds deserve. Therefore, I am more keen to rephrase your statement as "Indian government will still be antagnostic towards US even if US proves its commitment to India"
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PLEASE! Avoid quoting posts in full unless you intend to make a point by point analysis.
US has provided more aid and trade to India than our deeds deserve.
Originally posted by Dilip Kumar:
Was USA able to make Pakistan stop terrorism?
nope.
It was said that Pak promised US no more terror.
It was a joke.
You would be much easier to understand if you took that bucket off of your head. And that goes for the tiny ad too!
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